Considerations of Christ's Resurrection

Hello Willowtree,Tacitus wrote his Annuls after 100ce. All he reports is that there were a group of people called Christians and they believed in a leader named Christus.Aquinas wasn't even born until after 1200ce. What kind of witness to events he is, I can't fathom. Where do you get your information on the deaths of the apostles? Most of what I find lists heresay;John the Baptist - died at the whim of a woman, nothing to do with his faith {bible}Simon/Peter - MAY have died in either 64ce during Nero's reign or 67ce {no reference}Andrew - tradition says crucified in Patras------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

hhmm double post and only half posted ...
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Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato[This message has been edited by Asgara, 11-24-2003]

hopefully here is the rest of my post:James son of Zebedee - executed by Herod {bible}John son of Zebedee - banished to Patmos during the reign of either Emperor Nero (AD54-68) or Domitian (AD81-96), died a natural death at Ephesus c AD100 {no reference}Philip - either died or was martyred in Hieropolis {no reference}Bartholomew - Traditionally he met his death by being either flayed or skinned alive or beheaded, in either Derbent, on the Caspian Sea or somewhere in India (no reference)Thomas Didymus - speared to death near Madras (no reference)Matthew Levi - possibly killed in either Ethiopia OR Persia {no reference}James son of Alphaeus - tradition claims death in Egypt {no reference}Jude - possibly killed with Simon in Persia {no reference}Simon - tradition says either crucified or hacked to death in Persia {no reference}Judas - conflicting stories on purchase of pauper's field {bible} {no other reference}Matthias - no references anywhere after being chosen to replace Judas {bible}Paul - possibly executed under Nero, possibly aquitted and set free for another three years, before being rearrested and executed - {no reference other than bible, }Only two apostle's deaths were mentioned in the bible, three of them aren't even covered "in tradition".If anyone has anything more than "tradition" that shows the deaths of the apostles, I would be interested in reading it.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

Willow,Which account is the truth then?Matt 28 - Mary M. and Mary mother of James
angel descended and rolled away the stone and sat on it
talked to the two women
women ran to tell the disciples
Jesus met them as they wentMark 16 - Mary M, Mary mother of James and Salome
stone already rolled away
inside was young man
they ran away and said nothing to anyone
JC appeared 1st to Mary M
then two more
then the 11Luke 24 - no names listed in beginning
stone already rolled away
inside were two men
they told the 11
lists Mary M, Mary mother of James and Joanna and
others who were there
Peter went to see for himself
Jesus appeared to two, Cleopas and anotherJohn 20/21 - still dark
Mary M
stone already rolled away
didn't look, ran to tell Simon and the disciple
that Jesus loved
They went to look and saw no one there
Mary M stayed and saw two angels
she turned and saw Jesus
told the disciples
that evening Jesus appeared to the disciples together------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

Willow,I would appreciate some feedback on my post #17, and Dan's post #18.Also, some feedback on my posts #5 and #7. I have heard stories concerning the deaths of the apostles for many years, but the only information I could actually find on this issue talks of "traditionally" or "it is said" or has too many questions concerning what, when, and where. If anyone has any actual historic references to these events I would appreciate reading them.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato