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jar
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Message 74 of 152 (696689)
04-18-2013 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Phat
04-18-2013 12:30 AM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
But the part that you underlined is simply unsupported assertion that happens to be what YOU want to hear.
Yes, the US has the technology to be more sophisticated in choosing targets, but that is not true of all people. Those who do not have our sophisticated and expensive weapons must use what they have. And the US certainly takes the same position about innocent civilians if they happen to be near one of our targets.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 76 of 152 (696718)
04-18-2013 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Theodoric
04-18-2013 12:43 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
They were unable to prevent the bombing.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 79 of 152 (696726)
04-18-2013 1:03 PM
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04-18-2013 12:50 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
And that is likely part of the intended message.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 80 of 152 (696728)
04-18-2013 1:05 PM
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04-18-2013 12:53 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
Okay, I understand that you feel that way.
But if the message is, "Look, the government cannot and will not protect you." then it points out that government is ineffective to protect you.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 86 of 152 (696770)
04-18-2013 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by hooah212002
04-18-2013 3:00 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
But you don't know that. So far no one knows what the message or purpose was or even if there was a message.
The point is that the person or persons that committed these acts may not be "disturbed" (what ever that means) and could be foreign or domestic.
But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 88 of 152 (696782)
04-18-2013 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by hooah212002
04-18-2013 3:54 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
Let me ask if you understand what placing the term "if" in a sentence implies?
Uh, no? Why should you or I change our culture because someone blew some shit up?
If I had said that you might even have a point, however I did not say or even imply any such thing.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 90 of 152 (696787)
04-18-2013 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by hooah212002
04-18-2013 4:24 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
I'm sorry but is it possible you are unable to read.
Perhaps you can help by providing a link to the quote where i said that.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 92 of 152 (696795)
04-18-2013 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by hooah212002
04-18-2013 4:35 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
They are a classic example of the dishonest tactics of "quote mining", misrepresentation and taking things out of context. A perfect trifecta.
The quote in full said "But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture." and can be found in Message 86.
Please point out in the full quote where I say that we should change anything because there was a bomb?
I try to make sure that what I write stays at around the fifth or sixth grade comprehension level.
Maybe that is too high.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 94 of 152 (696802)
04-18-2013 5:28 PM
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04-18-2013 4:56 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
More bullshit.
The quote in full said "But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture." and can be found in Message 86.
Maybe it is long before your time but this is not the first instance of bombings in the US. Not too long ago there were people bombing churches and people burning down their own neighborhoods and towns. The time was horrendous and it seemed that the US had gone mad.
But Americans looked at the school and church bombings, looked at the reasons they happened.
Americans looked at the burning cities, the burning neighborhoods, looked at the reasons they happened.
And Americans realized that some of their behavior, some of their culture, some of their behaviors were contributing causes of the bombings and riots and burnings and began making positive changes.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 96 of 152 (696805)
04-18-2013 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by hooah212002
04-18-2013 5:34 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
Sorry but even in what you quoted where do I say that we should change our behavior because of a bombing?
It is not the bomb we should be guided by but rather an examination of our behavior.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 98 of 152 (696809)
04-18-2013 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by hooah212002
04-18-2013 5:59 PM


Re: Calculated terror or Domestic Insanity?
I have answered those questions.
quote:
Well we simply have no idea yet about who did it or why. What you said was "Its either that or a disturbed domestic individual. Im not suggesting anything yet...we shall see. And what would be your response, were you a national leader? Turn the other cheek?"
Your post says that who ever did it must be "disturbed" if it was domestic.
It could well be "disturbed" and foreign.
It could be quite reasonable and logical and domestic.
It could be the act of someone seeking justice.
From Message 28
quote:
What I believe is totally irrelevant. The fact is that right now all we know is that there were at least two explosions, when and where the explosions happened and that there were injuries and deaths.
Who and why are still total unknowns and it is silly to classify them as "disturbed" or "illogical" or "unreasonable" until more is known.
from Message 36
quote:
It is very possible, even likely, that whoever planted the bombs, whether foreign or domestic, believes that their actions were completely reasonable, logical, ethical and justified. Whether it was foreign or domestic has nothing to do with how they view their motivation.
from Message 44
quote:
Actually, I can most certainly imagine a Wyoming Rancher thinking he should be in a state of war against the US because of drone surveillance and the potential of strikes.
If we are smart, maybe possibly even wise though, we should look at and understand what motivated them and see if we shouldn't change our behavior.
from Message 48
quote:
But you don't know that. So far no one knows what the message or purpose was or even if there was a message.
The point is that the person or persons that committed these acts may not be "disturbed" (what ever that means) and could be foreign or domestic.
But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture.
from Message 86
and most recently:
quote:
More bullshit.
The quote in full said "But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture." and can be found in Message 86.
Maybe it is long before your time but this is not the first instance of bombings in the US. Not too long ago there were people bombing churches and people burning down their own neighborhoods and towns. The time was horrendous and it seemed that the US had gone mad.
But Americans looked at the school and church bombings, looked at the reasons they happened.
Americans looked at the burning cities, the burning neighborhoods, looked at the reasons they happened.
And Americans realized that some of their behavior, some of their culture, some of their behaviors were contributing causes of the bombings and riots and burnings and began making positive changes.
from Message 94
What we need to examine will be based on what the reason was for the behavior and no one knows that yet.
As I said, the bombings, burning and riots caused us to reexamine our behavior. We realized that some of our behavior, our culture, or society, our politics, our education needed changing.
Right now we have no idea why the bombings took place. Once we learn that then we should examine our behavior, our society, our culture, our politics our education and see if there are things we should change.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 104 of 152 (696863)
04-19-2013 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by Phat
04-19-2013 3:43 AM


Re: Framing The Issue
No, you don't have it quite right but you are getting close.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 149 of 152 (697425)
04-25-2013 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Phat
04-25-2013 8:39 AM


Re: National Opinion slowly forms...
The goal of terrorism is to prompt an overreaction.
The US almost always says "Good idea, let us overreact."
But so far I have seen nothing about any foreign involvement in the Boston Bombing incident.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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