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Panmdas, I'm not interersted in this 'average density' thing. I'm getting kinda tired of answering your posts.What I want to know is; Can you see beyond the Observable Universe?

Hi Admin, it's my fault - sometimes when I'm scrolling thru', I see something that I think needs an answer and only later I realise I've already answered. Sorry, I'll watch that!

No Nukes, I'm not interested in current Theory Yopu ta;k about a Universe nobody can see - all we can see is the Observable Universe (OU).You have an expansion that started fast, slowed down, and then accelerated. Allow me to tell you what happened......The expansion started slowly and has since accelerated - continuing to accelerate in the manner of any Inward expansion as I describe on page 1.You talk about Space expanding around different objects, I talk about expansion as objects moving away from each other. My way's simpler, saying the same thing. Anyway, Space is a vacuum. How do you get a vacuum to expand?

That's okay, panda. I can hold my own, especially against people like you.I have the copyrite on this 'black hole where I say it is,' from the Library of Congress, Washington DC. fr5pom 2003.There is a book, also, by me, about this black hole - Box 994 Oakville ON L6K 0B1.

Percy, that video was not good.

JonF, you're right. I don't usually talk about 'weight', I prefer 'Mass'. but against such forces one does what one can.

Percfy, look - I object to people saying "bullshit' in my thread. I'm trying to keep this scientific. Does that register with you?

Darwin had the same problem, JonF.And where can I find an 'infinite' cloud of hydrogen?Look, I agree the Observable Universe is expanding (exponentially, in my opinion) and that the expansion is accelerating and continuing to accelerate, in the manner of any Inward expansion, explained in my "Observational Evidence' on page 1.And I'm glad to hear you admit you can't see past the Observable Universe. I can't either.

Darwin had the same problem, JonF.And where can I find an 'infinite' cloud of hydrogen?Look, I agree the Observable Universe is expanding (exponentially, in my opinion) and that the expansion is accelerating and continuing to accelerate, in the manner of any Inward expansion, explained in my "Observational Evidence' on page 1.And I'm glad to hear you admit you can't see past the Observable Universe. I can't either.

Well said, No Nukes.
The Universe this, and the Universe that - how can you talk about the Universe, when all we can see is the Observable Universe (OU)?The Universe is flat? Who decided that?Or maybe, No Nukes, I'm wrong about you, maybe you can see beyond the OU? why won't you tell me?

Percy, you're telling me the Universe did this and that - but you can't see the Universe any more than I can. All we can know about is the Observable Universe.Nobody can see the Universe, tho' many pretend. We should confine ourselves to discussing the Observable Universe and its 'accelerating expansion.' That's what's important.

No Nukes, the expansion began slowly (as in the Big-Wheeze) and has since accelerated. The expansion continues to accelerate in the manner of any Inward Expansion - Outward Expansions all slow down and stop.I explain all this in my 'Observational Evidence on page 1. I wish you would read it.As for the CBR, I explain that in my very first post. It's all around us, perfectly smooth (COBE) and slightly pinker at one end than the other. It's left-over heat from the time the Universe was evolving.If we were falling into an ongoing attractive Central Point, the actual mechanics of the situation might surprise you. You talk about 'spaghettification' that supposedly might occur as you accrete onto a black hole. We are not at that stage yet.Acceleration leads to Loss of Pressure and that's Expansion - where everything is moving away from everything else. Any expanding system, in the absence of any outside forces, will expand evenly. That's not me - that's Physics 101.And those stars that are leaving us at the speed of light, we don't see them, we see where they were - a few thousand years ago. It takes that long for the light to travel (red-shifted of course) to us here on Earth.

Coyote, welcome to my thread. You see, I believe in Gravity. Gravity built the Universe, and Gravity runs it. It's Gravity that keeps the Moon orbiting Earth, not Anti-Gravity.Yes, the rest of the world thinks the Universe is operated by Ant-Gravity. They say Anti-Gravity is pushing the Universe apart. Now, if you push something, you're going to get Compression and Compaction - both warming effects.Now, if you pull something - there is always the danger you might pull it apart. Anyway, if you pull it, there's going to be de-compression, and even expansion, both cooling effects. We're cooling down, as I
hope you know.Anyway, nice chatting to you. Hope you get back to me.

Coyote, welcome to my thread. You see, I believe in Gravity. Gravity built the Universe, and Gravity runs it. It's Gravity that keeps the Moon orbiting Earth, not Anti-Gravity.Yes, the rest of the world thinks the Universe is operated by Ant-Gravity. They say Anti-Gravity is pushing the Universe apart. Now, if you push something, you're going to get Compression and Compaction - both warming effects.Now, if you pull something - there is always the danger you might pull it apart. Anyway, if you pull it, there's going to be de-compression, and even expansion, both cooling effects. We're cooling down, as I
hope you know.Anyway, nice chatting to you. Hope you get back to me.

Coyote, welcome to my thread. You see, I believe in Gravity. Gravity built the Universe, and Gravity runs it. It's Gravity that keeps the Moon orbiting Earth, not Anti-Gravity.Yes, the rest of the world thinks the Universe is operated by Ant-Gravity. They say Anti-Gravity is pushing the Universe apart. Now, if you push something, you're going to get Compression and Compaction - both warming effects.Now, if you pull something - there is always the danger you might pull it apart. Anyway, if you pull it, there's going to be de-compression, and even expansion, both cooling effects. We're cooling down, as I
hope you know.Anyway, nice chatting to you. Hope you get back to me.