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Peter Lamont
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Message 288 of 305 (701004)
06-10-2013 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by Coyote
06-09-2013 9:01 PM


Coyote, welcome to my thread. You see, I believe in Gravity. Gravity built the Universe, and Gravity runs it. It's Gravity that keeps the Moon orbiting Earth, not Anti-Gravity.
Yes, the rest of the world thinks the Universe is operated by Ant-Gravity. They say Anti-Gravity is pushing the Universe apart. Now, if you push something, you're going to get Compression and Compaction - both warming effects.
Now, if you pull something - there is always the danger you might pull it apart. Anyway, if you pull it, there's going to be de-compression, and even expansion, both cooling effects. We're cooling down, as I
hope you know.
Anyway, nice chatting to you. Hope you get back to me.

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Peter Lamont
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Message 290 of 305 (701008)
06-10-2013 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Percy
06-09-2013 9:03 PM


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Percy, You think thne Universe is being pushed apart by Dark Energy - really Anti-Gravity. If you push something, Percy - you're going to get Compression and Compaction, both warming effects.
If you pull something, there is always the danger you might pull it apart, no? If you pull something, you're going to get Decompression and Expansion, both cooling effects. We're cooling, not warming, Percy.
But you'll never see it. Too bad, Percy.

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Peter Lamont
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Message 291 of 305 (701009)
06-10-2013 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by Panda
06-09-2013 9:11 PM


Panda, I'm understanding your posts less and less as time goes by.

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Peter Lamont
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Message 292 of 305 (701011)
06-10-2013 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by NoNukes
06-09-2013 11:32 PM


NoNukes, too bad thedre's no actual evidence of any slowing down of the expansion. What you're doing is 'assuming' that the expansion slowed down, and we know how dangerous these 'assumptions' can be to Science.
You think the Universe is being pushed apart by Dark Energy (really Anti-Gravity.) With all that Compression and Compaction, we'er warming, no?
Of course not. If you pull something you might pull it apart. You're going to get Decompression and Expansion - both cooling effects.
It's pretty obvious to me that Gravity's running the show. Let me know what you think.

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Peter Lamont
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Message 293 of 305 (701013)
06-10-2013 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by NoNukes
06-09-2013 11:32 PM


No Nukes, there was no BigBang - the Universe wasn't created, 'poof'. It evolved slowly, over time.
LeMaitre couldn't see the Universe. He assumed it was expanding, dangerous assumption when he didn't know the expansion was accelerating. That means we're going in. You don't know it, but I do. That's actually why we're accelerating.
Darwin had the same problem. Up against years of 'conditioning' he knew he would have difficulty.
The expansion started slowly, and gradually accelerated.

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Peter Lamont
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Message 294 of 305 (701014)
06-10-2013 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by NoNukes
06-09-2013 11:51 PM


No Nukes, I have no idea how a flat Universe would appear - like a Vortex?
All we can see is the Observable Universe and it's accelerating expansion. We should study these things, and I don't mean maybe.
I know about ten of these 'accelerating expansions,' all of them Inward. Are you able to come up with one? I'd like to hear it - just not your Universe, okay?

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Peter Lamont
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Message 295 of 305 (701016)
06-10-2013 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by NoNukes
06-10-2013 12:18 AM


No Nukes, glad you enjoyed the video.

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Peter Lamont
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Message 296 of 305 (701017)
06-10-2013 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by Panda
06-10-2013 2:35 PM


Repetition and Deviation. You obviously don't like my style, Panda. I wonder why you're still hanging around?

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Peter Lamont
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Message 303 of 305 (701093)
06-11-2013 2:12 PM


Well, here's my summation.
I think I've proven that we're being pulled by Gravity, not pushed by Dark Energy. This 'attractive' force, is ongoing (and seemingly increasing) causing us to accelerate and keep accelerating (just as I describe in my 'Observational Evidence' on page 1.)
As we accelerate we expand. Evenly, as I've pointed out.
I know the rest of the world thinks the Universe appeared -'poof', but I think it was a gradual process.
I think I've covered all the bases - we're going in', as I think I've shown - with an ever increasing Rate of Acceleration! That spells 'black hole' to those in the know.
I believe in Gravity. It's all there is, anyway.

  
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