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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Bible is a collection of books written by independent witnesses.
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scienceishonesty Member (Idle past 3727 days) Posts: 80 Joined: |
Not a "minor point", it was the WHOLE BEGINNING POINT of the reformation.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, have you actually read the 95 Treatise?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
And here was me thinking you'd deny the hatred.
Oh an honest reading of the books I'm talking about could only lead one to have a hatred of Catholicism as the lying murderous antichristian religiopolitical system it is.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They are called the books of Moses not only because he wrote them or authorized their writing but because they are about him and his times. The idea that somehow generations of Israelites and Christians managed to overlook the fact that it reports on Moses' death is just weird.
If your former faith was genuine and not just an intellectual matter then you will come back to it eventually because God won't let you get away. But to give up on it as totally as you seem to have done suggests it wasn't authentic, that's not just a convenient assessment, it's an honest assessment. God will give you a way back if it was genuine. But you are asking for the wrong kind of evidence. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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But to give up on it as totally as you seem to have done suggests it wasn't authentic, that's not just a convenient assessment, it's an honest assessment. I love how you fanatics, just go well you never really believed cause its impossible for you to fathom that someone might have broken free from your brainwashing cult. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You hate Nazism don't you? (I hope). Stalinism? Maoism? If you understood it you would also hate Catholicism. And so would honest Catholics hate it. But the knowledge is suppressed and the RCC is good at keeping people in its thrall.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
If you understood it you would also hate Catholicism. But i love the new catholic pope the whole stop bashing the gays we have real problems to deal with like wealth redistribution so the poor stop dying kind of appeals to me even though its coming from a man that dresses like a wizard. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah, this Pope is a masterpiece, I agree, he'll soon have the whole world eating out of his hands. Except Bible believers of course. Maybe a few diehard capitalists as well.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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scienceishonesty Member (Idle past 3727 days) Posts: 80 Joined: |
I do not know for sure that Moses did not write the first 4 books, however, there seems to be accumulating evidence that it is very unlikely he did, and even that he may have not existed at all.
A lot of it has to do with seemingly different versions of events almost simultaneously together in the text.
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scienceishonesty Member (Idle past 3727 days) Posts: 80 Joined: |
No I haven't, what is it about?
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frako Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
LEme guess he is the Antichrist or something like that.
Where in the bible does it say the church should horde wealth or anyone for that matter. Remember the whole camel and eye of the needle business. Though i wish he would have just said its impossible for rich people to enter hevan so rich people would not need to invent a nonexsistent gate of Jerusalem called the eye of the needle. When has jesus bashed the gays? Given that Jesus priority was more with the rich then the gays shouldent the churches attitude be the same. Or is the juckiness you feel when you see 2 gay men so powerful it should be the primary concern of every bible thumper to stomp them out before we take on the whole poor people problem. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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scienceishonesty Member (Idle past 3727 days) Posts: 80 Joined: |
So what is the right kind of evidence I'm looking for? Is it a feeling of certainty that enters the brain or some other place in the body?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If you want to believe the recent Bible scholars, many of whom were unbelievers, over the 2000 year old understanding of the sources of scripture, you've made your choice. The Bible is to be believed, period.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
God can show you, I can't. Ask Him.
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