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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 23 (71285)
12-05-2003 7:27 PM


My following statements will all be acording to assumptions that the Genesis record is true.
1. According to the Biblical record there was no direct sunlight to make a rainbow before the flood. This also corroborates with the fact that the earth was watered by mist then.
2. Living creatures lived much longer, implying the climate and other conditions were conducive to such.
3. No direct sunlight calls for a vapor canopy over the earth. Nobody knows how dense it was or high it would've extended into the atmosphere.
4. There was considerable underground water which was broken up during flood.
5. For this to happen, there had to be immense seismic activity.
6. For there to be a canopy and lots of water underground, it is likely that there were no large oceans and they weren't nearly as deep.
7. There were no high, I say high mountains before the flood, so forget 29000' deep water.
8. Something had to give below the flood waters with the areas of thin earth crust, especially where the underwater cavaties broke up to emerge with the flood waters.
8. Possibly the oceans water was less salty and present salt water life possibly microadapted to it as it slowly increased in salinization.
9. The Poles would've frozen quickly, leaving them with much more ice than is present at them. Huge glaciers would've likely shifted around doing all kinds of mass continental and oceanic excavation in the process. The Oceans would've risen slowly to their present level as the glaciers moved and melted to lower warmer locations. This would give time for creatures to migrate worldwide as they multiplied.
10. The sun showed brightly enough immediately after the flood to produce a rainbow, so most, I say most of the water formerly upstairs is now downstairs.
Well, there's my take/hypothesis on how things became what things are now observed. Don't ask me to prove it. Take it or leave it for what it's worth to you.

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Buzsaw
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Message 15 of 23 (71293)
12-05-2003 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Brian
12-05-2003 7:32 PM


Brian why I believe the Bible would require a thread, as there's a number of reasons, including the fulfilled prophecies, the geological possibilities for what is observed geophysically, cause and effect, personal experiences which enforce the Bible, how the Bible influences nations positively, etc.

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Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 23 (71294)
12-05-2003 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Rei
12-05-2003 8:05 PM


quote:
It doesn't matter what environment you put a person in, they won't live anywhere close to that long.
Rei, the environment would make some difference, but you've reminded me that there would be more.
1. The genes of living things would likely be stronger the nearer creation you get, as Adam was created perfect in every way. There would tend to be a lessening of quality in beings as time went on, imo. This would possibly also be so in the quality of plants. Again, I can't prove that. Just another hypothesis.
2. They were vegetarians and had better quality to eat with the super climate.
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It can't be even remotely a major portion of the flood, or it would have parbroiled everyone alive. And plants... did they evolve to the present diversity of plants that need shade and plants that need sunlight later?
Nobody, (even you, Rei ) would know how much water was in the atmosphere, how high the hills/mountains were, i.e how much water required to cover and how much under ground.
And evidence of exposure of the lithosphere is... where? And this water wouldn't be superheated.... why?
Neither of us were there, so God knows. As I stated, nobody knows how high or dense the vapor would've been, nor the pressure, nor anything else for sure.
When the island of La Palma alone collapses, the tsunami it will release should wipe out the entire eastern coast of the United States. *How much* mass displacement are you proposing?
Ditto, dono.
Sorry - there aren't huge reserves of water under the earth. Try again.
You missunderstood, I meant the canopy falling to earth via flood.
The rest is more hypothesis on both our parts, like your hypothesizing about billions of years ago as to what the universe was exactly like. So here we are, back here at square one. Shall we dance?

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Buzsaw
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Message 17 of 23 (71295)
12-05-2003 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Rand Al'Thor
12-05-2003 8:12 PM


Rand, there would be some miracle involved with the living things in preservation as well as much floating debris for insects to survive on, I would imagine. The rest likely would migrate by different means. God knows.
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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

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Buzsaw
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Message 18 of 23 (71296)
12-05-2003 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Rand Al'Thor
12-05-2003 8:12 PM


Rand, you raise another thought. Maybe this's an explanation as to why certain living creatures as well as plants are found only in certain parts of the planet, when they could as easily have existed in other parts. They simply didn't get around to migration to other places before the ocean cut them off and isolated them to their locations.

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