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Then you're not open to the possibility that your god has nothing to do with it. You have pre-determined that there must have been an action of god involved, that it must be taken into account, etc., etc., even though we have no way of testing for it, no way of detecting, and no agreement as to what this "god" thing is in the first place.
I would go so far as saying that yes indeed, it is a possibility that all of my experiences proving God are just coincidences. But I find this a very very low probability considering the circumstances.
No two people should ever have the exact same idea as to what God is. Some people cannot accept, for whatever reasons, certain aspects of God which are fact. Maybe, for _example_, God were an elephant. A very infinite elephant at that. Miss Rogers doesn't like the idea of God's trunk, so God-elephant lets her touch his ear. Mister Johnson doesn't like the way God-elephant's ears are, so God-elephant lets him touch his tail, cause that's all he can accept. Now how could all of these people, having blindfolds on and only having been given one part to touch, identify the same elephant? One thinks God's a warm, hairy skin-like thingamajigger, and one thinks its a snake with a soft furry head. No agreement there, because different aspects were sensed. No agreement here on Earth, yet perhaps each idea a part of the reality of God. No agreement is necessary, if you want to experience God, God can most likely arrange it.
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You've gone from "woman chasing" to "flirting." "Woman chasing" is not simply making a person feel good. It is making them feel good only so far as you need them to feel good in order to get what you want out of them and them dumping them as soon as the allure is gone without regard to the devastation left in your wake.
Flirting is a part of woman chasing, but it is not all of it. You have forgotten to follow through to the end.
Ask women if they find "women chasers" appealing.
If that really is the commonly accepted definition, then it was misworded on my part. I think, though, you understand quite well despite the "wrong words", my point to be that God can have fun with all of his friends without ever mistreating them, period. I get the feeling you like to be very technical, if you understand what I'm getting at, don't push and push until you get me to use the exact word you were thinking of, understand my point and make the assumption that the description is much more important than the word. Unless my wording is completely out of context, and I think you are able to see that it wasn't. My description was enough for anyone to get my point. Besides, did you really find "woman chaser" in your dictionary?
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open yourself to this new idea that he is not sometimes nice and sometimes a bastard, that everything he does is for good and out of love which will come to benefit anyone bestowed this honor of knowing such a great person.
Do you not see that your first statement is completely contradicted by the second?
A person who is behaving like a bastard is not doing something for good or out of love. That's the definition of what "being a bastard" is. It is behaving selfishly, out of concern only for oneself and one's own personal satisfaction, without regard or care for the consequences as it affects others.
Those two qualities cannot exist together.
Ok, that was just plain ole misread by you. I did say plainly that god does _not_ sometimes do one and sometimes the other, that everything he does is for good and out of love. In other words, I stated that God is never a bastard.
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Ergo, if god is a womanizer, then he is by definition dishonorable.
And to put this to rest for once and for all, 1) he is not and 2) he is not.
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You didn't answer my question. You went on and on about karma, but I didn't ask about that. Try again:
Is there anything that happens on its own or is god required for everything?
No, God does not care which side the pennies will land, up or down. I again stated very plainly that God does not interfere with our independence. He does not, period. His law of karma causes bad deeds to come upon bad people and good deeds to come upon good people, just as you are pulled to the ground by gravity (don't get technical here if I somehow breached the technical aspects of ToG, my comparison is clear). There is an attraction of one to the other, and it works so perfectly that God does not have to watch it and be sure everything is functioning. Our independence was given to us, period. No intervention on independence.
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