No Stealing, Unless from Egyptians

Jim says, "Jacob was the swindler who stole the birthright of his brother, Esau."As Jazz points out in his post just above, the story goes that Esau traded his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of red lentil gruel. Read the story, as it is all tied together by the color "red" indicating an underlying theme.[This message has been edited by Abshalom, 12-28-2003]

Storm offers, "Herod Antipas became ruler of the land through the ancient "Sacred Marriage" with the High Queen Mariamne, a priestess of the Triple Goddess Mari-Anna-Ishtar who was popularly worshiped at the time of Christ (B,C,D,E *)."Others are of the opinion that the goddess called Mari is an "Old Europe" goddess circa 4000 BCE and preceding the Indo-European incursions of earth goddesses or mother goddesses known by other names. Due to their isolation, the Basque seem to have preserved the Old Europe Mari. See: http://www.evertype.com/misc/basque-jies/basque-jies.html (no endorsement of or belief in the materials or theories supplied by the link implied or given by this submitter)For another source closer to Palestine regarding this Miryai Magdala figure with regard to "I am this that and the other" statements, see: http://www.essenes.crosswinds.net/subindex9.htm and for additional information on this Essene-offshoot sect, see: http://essenes.crosswinds.net/subindex9.htm (Again, no endorsement of or belief in the materials or theories advanced by this organization either ... simply supplying information in response to Storm's info linking Herodian bloodlines to the Old Europe Mari as opposed to the post Indo-European incursion variety goddess.)[This message has been edited by Abshalom, 01-02-2004][This message has been edited by Abshalom, 01-02-2004]

Storm: Your post to which I replied indicated that the Herodian lineage was somehow tied to or empowered by a goddess's three-part name that contained the name of the Old Europe goddess Mari, and that the three crowns somehow constitute "Magdala." My reply only supplied information that I thought was pertinent to a distinct separation of Mari and Magdalene by their individual connections to two very separate cultures. I did not intend any contradiction of your take on things.In post 20, you reply, "Many names many similarities, same worship of the rites of spring, nothing is new under the sun, the importance of their fertility rites is found most everywhere ... It is all about seasons only the names have changed for culture to culture." I agree to a large extent.I also understand the connections regarding seasonal rites, harvest rituals, etc. to religious and secular holidays and rites. I also can see possible connections between the attributes assigned to gods and goddesses of different cultures possibly through interaction between the cultures in historic and prehistoric times.The remainder of Post 20 is information I have already seen elsewhere and is available rather generically online to everyone, but thank you very much for the refresher; so all in all your closing comment, "You are most welcome," comes off rather punkish. Is this one-upsmanship? I did not intend it that way.Additionally, I don't really see what all this has to do with the God of Shepherds's instructions to strip the Children of Ra of their gold and silver on the Day of Green Barley Harvest to be used 49 days later on the Day of Green Wheat Harvest to construct a Golden Calf while Moses was receiving instructions not to steal or covet.May I suggest we initiate another thread along the lines of "The Interchangable Attributes of Near Eastern Gods and Goddesses" or "Ying and Yang in the Levant."Thank you for your stimulating posts. Peace. May you prosper during the Return Period of the Solar Disk, and ready yourself for the March 17th Planting of the Spuds Festival.[This message has been edited by Abshalom, 01-02-2004]