Is it time to consider compulsory vaccinations?

We take the dangers appropriately seriously. You are just repeating the same rants and not addressing the issues.Here's the issue : What do you think should be done, and what evidence do you have that it is not being done? Not just claims that it isn't being done, objectively verifiable facts. Such as detailed lists of all the active vaccine research that is available and can be found with a thorough search and a demonstration that none of them are addressing your concerns. Or a list of promising avenues of research (with evidence why it's reasonable) and evidence that nobody's looking at them.

Faith you've made it clear that your only interest is in promoting the view that vaccines are dangerous. By your own admission you will listen to no argument to the contrary nor will you accept any evidence that refutes it.Obviously your mind is closed and you have no interest in the truth of the matter.But really think about it. If the thimerosol in childhood vaccines was causing autism then the removal of it should have reduced the incidence of autism. NOBODY says that that is happening. That is why the anti-vaccine movement is moving on to other "causes".So, on the evidence the movie is wrong about thimerosol. And if it mislead you so thoroughly on that point, how can you rely on its other claims ?

I woudl like to see evidence that you listened to any valid source, ever.

I'm watching the movie again (thanks to whoever said I only needed the active x if I used internet explorer; I'm using Firefox, no problem).In the first twenty minutes the film makes many references to studies done on Thimerosal even back to the 1920s, one by Eli Lilly on 22 people with meningitis in 1927 all of whom died shortly after being given the Thimerosal, but the deaths were blamed on meningitis. Not clear if others in the 144 cases of meningitis survived it, that would be good to know.It used to be called Merthiolate. Here's a page from Medline Plus, US Library of Medicine, on the toxicity of Merthiolate: Earlier in the movie a case is mentioned that was decided by the court in favor of a girl claimed to have autism as a result of Thimerosal. Anna Poling I think was the name. 2007 case. Now sealed so unavailable for study. I'm going to have to see the movie yet another time because I'm not getting thorough enough notes.

I wonder what part of 'Large amounts' that you forgot to read.

So, if we will first say that they're dangerous, then we might be able to convince you that they're safe?

You'd have to join in the effort to show that they are dangerous and then in the effort to make them safe. What all that would involve I don't know, but just insisting they're safe in the teeth of everything I've been hearing that says they aren't, isn't going to convince me of anything.

They don't say what "large amounts" means, do they? In the film even parts per billion were shown to be toxic.

This is a pure fabrication, a misrepresentation of results in the paper "Meningococcic Meningitis. A Clinical Study of One Hundred and Forty-Four Epidemic Cases", Smithburn et al, JAMA, 1930 Vol. 95 pp. 776-80.

So first I have to agree with you, then you'll listen to me.

Was this the first ever important toxicological result to be published in a movie, or is there some more regular channel of information, perhaps even a peer-reviewed journal, where the data can be found?

With the number of owies that I had painted with merthiolate back before 1960, a significant toxicity in the parts per billion would have had me dead a long time ago.Now I am thinking about staying out of airplanes, trains, and highway vehicles of any sort until they are all shown to be safe. Oxcarts have, I think, been sufficiently vetted to be regarded as safe as long as the roads they use are pedestrian and oxcart only, but my grandchildren, at least, don't seem that enthused about moving to backwoods Guatemala. Even though they have pretty widespread vaccination programs there, there's something about internet connections.....

I heard the same thing about dihydrogen monoxide.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.htmlBTW, do you take any medicines?

All I could find with that title was something by Robert Kennedy, so if you want what you consider to be the truth about it to be reported it's up to you to report it. Otherwise I'm ignoring you.

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