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Message 1 of 29 (791985)
09-29-2016 10:59 AM


With congress overturning President Obama's veto for a Saudi 9/11 lawsuit, it seems the president believes it will set a dangerous precedent for our own country. Is this true? Will this action cause more harm than good or will it force countries to perhaps curtail "bad behavior" that could result in litigation? I believe this as with most public policy is a double edged sword that may come back to haunt the U.S.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Touched up truncated topic title. Deleted "Coffee house discussion" from end of message.

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Message 7 of 29 (792013)
09-30-2016 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Diomedes
09-30-2016 9:55 AM


Hi Diomedes,
I do not think there is a "direct" link. However the U.S. has lost face in this instance yet once again imo, in so far as the US congress overriding the president's veto.
It freakin pisses me off that someone as astute in the law as President Obama would be brushed aside like this. Bringing a lawsuit against the Saudi government may be more symbolic and in more ways than first glance. It is political.
I realize our government is in bed with the Saudi government for obvious reasons (OIL)but this will certainly be a game changer now.
We are talking about a government with some of the worse human rights infractions on the planet they will fart in our general direction.

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Message 8 of 29 (792014)
09-30-2016 12:38 PM
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09-29-2016 9:48 PM


Hi Tanypteryx,
I think personally this is more symbolic than substantive litigation.
I will eat my words if the case brought brings out a smoking gun.
We are as the Prez said inserting our collective penis's into a hornets nest. Ok maybe that was someone else but you get the gist.
Edited by 1.61803, : jist to gist

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Message 17 of 29 (792087)
10-03-2016 9:52 AM
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10-03-2016 8:54 AM


Re: Retrospective laws?
"Tis a unweeded garden that grows to seed."
Mitch, (the turtle) McConnell is one of the biggest asshats in the senate. It will take several gigs of data space to contain all the baffoonary he has been responsible for since his tenure.
Then we have this bit from Paul Ryan concerning the Senates buyers remorse:
quote:
"I would like to think there may be some work to be done to protect our service members overseas from any kind of legal ensnarement that occur, any kind of retribution," Ryan said at his weekly press conference Thursday. "I would like to think there’s a way we can fix so that our service members do not have legal problems overseas while still protecting the rights of the 9/11 victims, which is what JASTA did do."
So let me get this straight Senator Ryan, you are basically saying you want to have your cake and eat it too? Bahhahhwaahwwaaaa! The senate has to eat crow now??? How hilarious.

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