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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: I included the references. And are you really going to assume that the doctors who examined the reports are going to be less reliable than someone promoting a miracle cure ?
quote: If he ever had it - was his diagnosis properly confirmed ? That seems to be a problem with Gerson's cases. But by all means believe someone selling nonsensical woo over medical science.
quote: Because the evidence I found is "nothing" ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
In other words it is entirely possible that Kordich may have never had cancer at all.
That's really not very good evidence.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
In other words you've decided to believe him, even when he has no way to know if what he's saying is really true.
That's hardly a rational approach - nor a good basis for advising others to rely on juicing instead of chemotherapy. So I hope you won't do that.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
If there weren't proper tests - and you've indicated that there weren't - Kordich simply couldn't know. Misdiagnoses do happen. So long as a misdiagnosis is a reasonable possibility (and it certainly is), then citing Kordich as evidence is simply not reasonable.
The most you could sensibly trust Kordich to do is to repeat what the doctor told him correctly - but even that is likely going too far into credulity, given the time since the diagnosis and the human tendency to confabulate - especially so given how much Kordich made from claiming to have been cured.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: You're really describing yourself - except that your attempts to destroy the truth fail all the time.
quote: Sure I do. Kordich cannot be expected to be unquestionably right about things he can't know and can't be expected to be immune to ordinary human failings. There is no good reason to think otherwise. And yet here you are complaining bitterly against it. Add to that the basic implausibility of a miracle cure and a misdiagnosis must be seen as a more likely possibility.
quote: I certainly think he would have been less famous - which matters to some people. And he certainly seems to have done well. And then there's all the emotional payoff from "beating cancer". Also, he doesn't mention studying to be a doctor - the only thing he mentions about University is football.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Where ? This page at jaykordich.com says:
He also grew and developed the muscles that would serve him well as a football player at the University of Southern California.
And
From a star athlete to surviving a life-threatening illness, all by the age of 26
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: So suggesting that Jay Kordich was human, with the normal human weaknesses is considered "character assassination". I couldn't pick a clearer example of you setting up a man as an idol if I tried. The rest is your usual tactic of trying to blame other people for the deficiencies of your argument. The fact is that you have no good evidence for the Gerson protocol, and the only one at fault here is you for indulging in your usual nastiness instead of accepting that fact.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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So when you accuse others that's fine. When others suggest that your accusation more accurately applies to you that's character assassination.
Interesting.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
No, I mean when you accused Taq of engaging in "character assassination" when he quoted your accusation and said that you were guilty of it. Taq Message 109 your reply Message 112. You will note that your post is the one I replied to.
You know, if you can't remember the thread of a conversation it is very easy to follow it back through the links the forum software provides. It's the one really good thing about this forum software that the more common packages fail to provide. And you would only have to look back along two links, too.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Firstly, if it's really working for him, great. Second, if he's trying to sell other people on it I'd really want more than his say-so. Third, he ought to make sure it really is working for him the way he thinks it is.
That said, not taking drugs you don't need is always a good thing.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: I rather doubt that:
Dr. Rashid Buttar presents 7 Advanced Strategies for Healing Cancer Naturally, without drugs, chemo, and radiation.
Joseph Mercola, too, which is a big red flag.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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What Experts Recommend
The supplement industry is big pharma with little regulation. Most of what it sells is unnecessary. Some of it is even potentially dangerous. Know what you need, and don’t waste money (at best) on the things you don’t.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
If it is a placebo, it isn’t really doing anything.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Given that the suppliers say this:
Willard Water is not intended to treat, diagnose, cure, or prevent any diseases.
You can be sure that they don’t have good evidence of any medical benefit.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
John MacDougall is the creator of a fad diet. Lim tells about switching from one fad diet to another. Those are not encouraging signs.
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