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mike the wiz

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Message 3 of 14 (82582)
02-03-2004 12:15 PM

Reply to: Message 2 by kjsimons
02-03-2004 11:20 AM

Mutations could be considered random events, but natural selection on those mutations is not random and is most certainly not designed. A mutation that is neutral or that aids the organism so that it can pass on more of it's genetic material to the next generation will be selected for.

Some processes of evolution are "accidental" but I wouldn't characterize all of evolution that way. Evolution as a process has no master plan or purpose so I would say evolution is not intentional.

I'd like to learn more about what you've just said here. I am a layman and nobody seems to discuss "natural selection" with me.

Natural selections on a mutation?

What makes the selection? - I s it biological?

Biologically I'm doomed

- bare with me.

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Message 6 of 14 (82634)
02-03-2004 2:39 PM

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02-03-2004 2:16 PM

Thanks Quetzal,
You confirm my suspicions when you say:

Or you can think of it as a seive filtering out less-optimum traits. The environment (all the different biological and non-biological aspects that effect the individual organism) is what does the selecting.

So effectively - the selecti's from the random mutations means that despite the mutations being random - selection isn't.
Bare with the poor creo!

panning for gold - tee hee hee, now your talking - good analogy!

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Message 7 of 14 (82637)
02-03-2004 2:42 PM

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02-03-2004 2:38 PM

Thanks Truthlover
That helps me understand this better. It seems far easier to ask a person than to look over information with a certain question in mind.

So basically , nature is the selector.....suspicions confirmed.

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02-03-2004 6:05 PM

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02-03-2004 5:25 PM

And I thought I was going to look silly, Asgara babe. I'm glad I get something right for once.

Hope your doing okay. Good to hear from you!

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Message 11 of 14 (83027)
02-04-2004 11:46 AM

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02-03-2004 10:20 PM

Hehe, it's on everyday over here

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