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Percy
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Message 12 of 38 (8673)
04-17-2002 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Robert
04-17-2002 12:21 AM



Robert writes:
Yes, I am absolutely sure that only Christians can be Creationists.
Evolutionists don't engage in this debate because of some perverse fascination with conservative Christian opinions about evolution. They only get involved because of the threat posed to science education when Creationists insist that Creationism is science and should be taught along side (they'd prefer instead of) evolution.
Once you concede that Creationism is a sectarian religious belief the debate is lost.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 16 of 38 (8679)
04-17-2002 8:16 PM
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04-17-2002 4:02 PM


Robert writes:

The Bible is not a textbook of science, but when it makes statements about the Creation of the universe and man those statements are true despite your interpretations of nature.
God's word is written in the earth and stars as well as in the Bible. Fallible men interpret the mysteries of both the universe and the Bible. When interpretations conflict, who can say which is in error?

To teach Darwinism in schools and not Creationism is to lead people astray from the truth.
You've just conceded, nay, insisted, that Creationism is a sectarian religious belief, and now you assert the right to teach it in public schools? What planet are you from?
The only good thing about your position is that it hasn't got a prayer, so to speak.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 25 of 38 (8706)
04-19-2002 10:49 AM
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04-19-2002 12:19 AM


Robert writes:

Our "morning and evening" discussion is an excellent example. Moses understood the phrase to be a 24hr day that is the specific reason why he used the phrase, because he meant a literal 24hr earth day. If he did not mean a literal 24hr earth day, than he would not have used the phrase.
Except that Moses didn't write Genesis, or any part of the Pentateuch. The actual identities of the authors of the Pentateuch are lost in the mists of time, but we know it couldn't have been authored by Moses since his own death is described:
Deu 34:5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said.
That the Pentateuch was written by Moses is an interpretation you have made, one not supported by any evidence.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 27 of 38 (8709)
04-19-2002 2:20 PM
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04-19-2002 1:48 PM


I don't think I know where to start. I've never encountered such boundless naivet before. It feels like trying to explain to a four year old that her Daddy isn't the most powerful man in the world.
--Percy

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