The Most Dangerous Individual To Ever Live

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Did you read my late post on the Islamic fundie thread where I documented about Islamic Jihad? If so, do you care to count the times the word "fight" was quoted from the Quran and the Sunnas in the link by this Islamic author?

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I did and then showed how much of a liar you were, using your own source none the less.You have yet to show more than one passage, taken out of context, as evidence the Quran itself teaches persecution, or address the numerous passages which clearly state otherwise.As far as treating the sunnas as equal or superior to the Quran, it has been stated and shown that not all Islamic denominations believe or practice that... again, including the source you posted a link from.You are a liar, and a bigot, with apparently no respect for the rules of your faith, even if overjoyed with some of its bloodier prophecies... which leaves you a hypocrite as well.

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Btw, Christ is not spelled "X". If I used the term "Xlam"...

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Xian is shorthand, like oh say... Btw? Should people fly off the handle for your maltreatment of the words by, the, and way?Not sure why you'd choose Xlam since it has no precedent, or grammatical sense. Not to mention that Islam is pretty damn short. But if you come up with a handy abbreviation for Islam, or even better Muhammed (mr M?) you'd find me using it just as much as Xian.

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please don't come at me for negative truth I post about others.

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People have every right to come at you for you lies, even if you choose to spin the situation by calling them "negative truths".

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Why is it that us atheists generally seem to know a little more about the history of your own religious traditions?

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Probably because athiests tend to be curious about the world around them and actually spend time reading and studying things.As far as I can tell the majority of Xians read the first book (genesis), the last book (revelations), and skim through the rest to find specific passages they might like... and nevermind the true historical context of the cult.This is not to say all of them, just a majority...

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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I suggest Holmes, that you cite specifically wherein I lied.

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Perhaps you were referring to a different last post to a thread on Islamic fundamentalism? This is the only one I know of.Personally I see nothing about the number of times the word fight is used in your post, and don't think that has much relevance anyway.My comment about your lies was regard to your use of the link you posted, as well as your numerous mischaracterizations of what the Quran does and does not say (this has been proven), as well as assertions that all followers of Islam must believe in what you or your selfserving choice of links say they must.This is of course in addition to your incorrect statements about my opinions regarding terrorism and threats by militant Islamic sects.If you were referring to some other post, then I apologize for making a mistake in understanding which post you were referring to.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Thiests tend to not be curious about the world?

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Correct. There appears to be very little interest in matters of objective truth regarding the world. Or at the very least theists show little interest in PURSUING matters of objective truth through an effort of research.

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They do not read or study things?

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Sure, but nothing very heavy, including their own religious text, or more than that histories of their own religion.

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I strongly disagree and I think you should re-think the statement above suggesting it.

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Remember I did not say this pertained to all theists, just a large number (perhaps the majority) of them. I could be wrong. This is a statement of personal experience.Having lived in a very religious town, and attended a religious affiliated college I've had a bit of experience with theists. Its always startled me how disinterested most of them were in putting in the time and effort necessary to truly understanda subject, including their own faith.I have seen that tendency mirrored here in many posts by self-proclaimed theists.For example, how do you explain buz's lack of knowledge regarding where the X for Xian came from? I think that's been mentioned in these forums at least twice before.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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I've heard it said that only 10% of the population actually thinks for themselves. The other 90% just go along with what they've been told from others.

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You know this could very well be true. I suppose the difference (in my perception) may be that theists more often try to preach to others about their faith, or get called on points of their faith, and as a result have more chances of proving how much they don't know than the average atheist does.Maybe I'll start spot checking atheists.

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As a theist whose completely addicted to books and the search of knowledge, I won't take offense because you didn't say all theists.

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Yeah, I really didn't mean to say all theists.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Me asking questions and researching Methods of dating the Earth (Greenland Ice Cores Topic) disproves your point.

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Well I don't know you enough to say whether you are interested in knowledge or not, but I will remind you that I wasn't saying ALL theists were disinterested.That means you and many others can be... just not the majority (according to my experience anyway). In fact, there are several theists on EvC which seem quite knowledgeable and I respect their opinions.So take it easy. Relax.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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So I repeat, where am I lying??

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Why don't you go to the thread and read my response to find out? I'll clue you in, the biggest problem is that how many times "fight" is used in that one link doesn't make one bit a difference. Nice try though.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

While I agree that if you name Muhammed as a dangerous man and give points toward that end, it ought to fit within this thread.I think the issue Asgara is getting at is your mentioning debates within other threads which were NOT concluded, and so shifting the debate from there to here. You could just as easily go back to the other thread and continue arguing there.I don't even think that would diminish any point you make in this thread. You can just say who you think is dangerous and then point to that thread saying go there for the ongoing discussion.

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Here we have 9/11; we have thousands of our troops in Islamic nations fighting a war with Muslims

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Heheh. Buz, Iraq has Xians as well as muslims. Saddam's right hand man Tariq Aziz is Xian. Thus we fought a war with Xians too (if you are including Iraq). That was about despotism not fundamentalism.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)