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Author Topic:   10 cubits across and 30 cubits around
johnfolton 
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Message 3 of 30 (98265)
04-06-2004 10:51 PM
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04-06-2004 10:13 PM


I was just replying to Eta Carinae, suggestion that the bible is in error in respect to pi, you have all the dimensions to make the casting, the diameter is in respect to the outside of the container, as is the height, the circumference is in respect to the inside of the container, and it says the container is to be round all about, so the verse isn't in error in respect to pi, but knowing pi we can calculate the thickness of the vessel, I came up with 5.65 inches, I'll just bet if you lay a ruler and measure the breath of a normal mans hand it will be closer to 5.65 inches than 3 inches, so leaning its the mold was based off the 25 inch sacred cubit, etc...
P.S. It doesn't matter the inside dimension circumference is going to be different than the outside circumference, because we know pi, and that the outside diameter is 10 cubits, we then know the outside circumference will be 31.4 cubits, and the inside diameter is 9.55 cubits, etc...though bet the person that made the molds, hand width was 5.65 inches wide, but he didn't need a handbreath measurement to make the mold, he only needed the three measurements, 5 cubits, 10 cubits, and 30 cubits, etc...
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Message 7 of 30 (98285)
04-06-2004 11:40 PM
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04-06-2004 11:18 PM


Two chapiters were made for Solomons Temple
Rocket, Its all about the two chapiters made of molten brass that were made for Solomons temple, that sat on top of two pillars to contain the bath waters, etc...
Abbyleever, I actually hear you, if the cubit was a bit less than 25 inches it would bring the hands width closer to 4 to 5 inches, but the problem isn't really about the cubit, but pi, but agree with you, there is no problem with pi, etc...
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Message 9 of 30 (98308)
04-07-2004 1:10 AM
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04-06-2004 11:54 PM


Re: Two chapiters were made for Solomons Temple
Rocket, Noah had 120 years to build the ark, probably would of contracted some of the work, if you take the bible literally, they were giants in those days, and had iron and brass technology, though super sized boats are not limited to Noahs ark, whatabout the chinese building super large boats over 600 feet long, by compartmentalizing them, to strengthen them, thought as legend goes, they incorporated sails, ruled the south seas, this has already been discussed on this very forum, apparently its not all that hard to build a super large wooden vessel if one compartmentalizes, etc...
P.S. Its off topic, just thought I'd give you someone that not a creationists saying its not only possible, but that he believes the Chinese built boats larger than the ark, etc...
http://EvC Forum: About that Boat - Noah's Ark -->EvC Forum: About that Boat - Noah's Ark
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Message 19 of 30 (98464)
04-07-2004 4:19 PM
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04-07-2004 9:41 AM


They probably buried the mold in the clay, sand, whatever, and poured the molten brass, they would of needed an inside circumference, they had it, it was 30 cubits, etc...
P.S. If a person is going to make a mold, the 30 cubits would of been the circumference of the mold, the inside circumference, it didn't really say 30 cubits was below the brim, nevertheless, that was an excellent article from AIG, either way 30 cubits is not related to the same circle as the diameter of 10 cubits, guess were all in agreement, the bible is not saying pi = 3, etc...

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Message 25 of 30 (98549)
04-07-2004 8:33 PM
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04-07-2004 6:38 PM


Re: You're kiddin' right?
We all know the kjv bible is inerrant, but were not saved by the law, but in Christ who fullfilled the law, so its in the faith of Christ that were putting our faith in, the Word clothed in flesh, and its in Christ that were saved, heaven and earth will pass away but the Words of the Lord will never pass away, God chose the foolishness of preaching the gospel to save them that hear, and believe, though its foolishness to them that don't believe, but to them that believe its the power of God, etc...Its kinda interesting though how Adam died in the day he sinned fullfilling scripture too, that one day to the Lord is as a thousand of our years, what an awesome God, that a thousand of our years is but as a watch in the night, and that God is watching all, but from whose face heaven and earth shall pass away, and then judment day, the New Jerusalem, a new heaven and new earth, where all things will become new, to them that are saved, lambs book of life, etc...
P.S. Well Guess were all in agreement that the thread should be closed, in that we all agree the bible is not in error in respect to pi = 3, etc...

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Message 28 of 30 (98563)
04-07-2004 10:14 PM
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04-07-2004 8:55 PM


Re: You're kiddin' right?
I don't see technologies helping humanity, I see it enslaving humanity, due to automation (jobs lost), to compete with slave labor countries that industries are fleeing to, people with degree's unable to find employment due to fleeing technolgies to slave labor camps in other countries, for profit, due to the free trade treaties signed into being by Clinton (democrat), preventing penalties on free trade, to protect industries that fled America, for profit, etc... how is Clintonomics helping humanity if industy is pocketing the profit, etc...
P.S. It was quite interesting how pharmacy companies was allowed to keep their monopoly on drug costs in America, though people are getting around this now, by being allowed to buy drugs directly from Canada, same drugs at half the costs, etc...

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