Part of the ongoing problem that scientists are having with the terminology used by the ID/Creationists is this idea that animals were created in "kind".
But I have yet to hear a really concrete definition of "kind".
So, I propose that we look at a specific group of animals - the penguins - and figure out where they fit.
Are penguins of the "kind" bird? If so, why? If not, why? Is "Penguin" a kind? If so, is "Turkey" a kind?
What the thought process, if any, involved in Creationist classification?