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Author Topic:   If it can be, how can the "Absence of Evidence" be "Evidence of Absence?".
bluescat48
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Message 1 of 6 (532321)
10-22-2009 6:00 PM


It has been stated here at EvC and at other evo/creo fora the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
So be it. When I say I don't believe in any gods I get asked what evidence is there that no gods exist?
From my own experience I find that those who believe in Jehovah reject Zeus. My point is what evidence are these Theists using to reject Zeus, Ra, Thor, Xipe, etc.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : "Absense" to "Absence" in topic title.
Edited by bluescat48, : Suggestion from Adminnemooseus
Edited by Admin, : Fix title.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 2 of 6 (532349)
10-22-2009 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by bluescat48
10-22-2009 6:00 PM


How about a more generalized topic?
I must presume that this is a spin-off/sequel to the dearly departed (aka "closed") Pseudoskepticism and logic topic.
...absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
We Atheists get hit with this constantly in regard to our lack of belief in Deities.
BTW - "absense" changed to "absence" in above quote and topic title.
I think that the "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" concept is more often directed by the evolution side (aka "evolutionists") towards the creationism side.
I just have bad feelings about the topic as presented in message 1. I think it would be better to do a more generalized version of the titular concept. I suggest the topic title be changed to "If it can be, how can the "Absence of Evidence" be "Evidence of Absence?". Any title change is done via message 1 edit.
Please consider such, and if you find it agreeable, please edit topic title and submit a new version opening message (OP) as a new message in this topic. If promoted, the content of message 1 can be hidden with directions to the new OP.
Please include something of your own position along with your justification(s) for that position.
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Message 3 of 6 (532355)
10-22-2009 10:47 PM
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10-22-2009 10:14 PM


Re: How about a more generalized topic?
Original post editted

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 4 of 6 (533326)
10-30-2009 6:15 AM


^BUMP^ for Adminnemooseus
Bluescat has edited his OP.

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11-02-2009 8:18 PM
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10-22-2009 10:47 PM


Promoted with considerable reservations
The topic title was changed but little to nothing was changed in the message 1 content.
I've now reconsidered my thoughts of making the topic theme more generalized, and now do prefer the topic as presented in message 1.
I'll promote the topic - We shall see what happens.
Adminnemooseus

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11-02-2009 8:19 PM


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