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Author Topic:   Constantly designed baramins and the evolving food chain
mike the wiz
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Message 1 of 4 (198732)
04-12-2005 4:17 PM


Brad, we were told off by the admin, so here's the offshoot concerning baramins and the evolving food chain which fits the evidence and removes the ToE.
All the transitionals from the fossils are simply evidence that the food chain has evolved to be kept. Rather than mutation answering for improvements into niches, positions are assigned to baramins via supernatural design and creation, ex nihilo for all of time.
However, we do see species die off, and we know that they weren't fit enough. It might look like they evolved, but what if evolution is infact based on the food chain? We see that the chain is needed for the circle of life. So if an important species dies off - the 'transitionals" would infact be the designer making improvements on the previous model. This would show an active creator, keen to the task. It would mean that the food chain evolves, but mutations via natural fantasy, would not be the case.
Homo ergaster to homo sapien? No, but rather, the necessary entities in their assigned parameters untill God creates man ex nihilo as his intended and seperate spirit being of the earth.
So species would be all creations. Some left to adapt within baramin standardization parameter possibilities. But then, the big changes would be a new design. We didn't evolve, we are all baramins. It just depends on how much God leaves the baramin to adapt, and when it dies out, there is the design via the new baramin!
So the food chain would be that which evolves!!!!! Oh the irony! That all the evidence leads the scientists to evolving organisms but not an evolving YET fundamental and constant necessity and system called the food chain.
Standard baramins would be left to adapt untill death. This means no rules, but that you think niche bahaviour is possible. But really bahaviour = assigned niche. Thus we see evolution, we really do, but not of animals via natural means, but evolution of the food chain, which would show the same evidence.
This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 04-12-2005 03:19 PM

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Message 2 of 4 (198852)
04-13-2005 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
04-12-2005 4:17 PM


Irrefutable Pretzel
Mike, you are beginning to sound like Brad! Of course I am the faith and Belief guy...so I know nothing about what you just said.
Lets go with three brief questions which I beg you to answer for the Evo Panel.
1) What is the point that you wish to discuss and/or prove?
(One paragraph max answer)
2) Knowing the kindly Evos at EvC..do you really expect them to slap their heads and say "Aha! That Wiz has just blown the doors off of my thinking!"
3) For the benefit of the newbies and the lurkers...do you honestly think that anyone can understand you?
Suggested Topic Heading: Did God design the Food Chain?
4) Even if they CAN make themselves follow your logic...do you think that they WANT to?
Suggestion from the scientifically illiterate Phatboy:
Make a topic that they will want to understand. Don't upset their applecart. I.D. Creationists need not be martyrs in the science dome.
This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 04-13-2005 01:35 AM

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mike the wiz
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Message 3 of 4 (198901)
04-13-2005 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPhat
04-13-2005 4:29 AM


Re: Irrefutable Pretzel
Hey Phat, this should go in ID no question. There's no problems with it. I think many will understand what I mean.
1) What is the point that you wish to discuss and/or prove?
That evolution of species is indistinguishable from evolution of the food chain. The evidence favours both.
Knowing the kindly Evos at EvC..do you really expect them to slap their heads and say "Aha! That Wiz has just blown the doors off of my thinking!"
But Phatboy good buddy, does it matter? I think their job and hobby is to refute this kind of topic. I enjoy it, they enjoy it, why not let us get on with it? I think they will give it some thought as I did, then refute it or try.
3) For the benefit of the newbies and the lurkers...do you honestly think that anyone can understand you?
If you open the topic I'll clarify anything you don't understand. I'm razor sharp today as well.
OK Mikey...I'll remember what you said. Off to I.D. with you then.
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04-13-2005 9:00 AM


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