Do we affect the" physical " indepentent of the laws of physics

The laws of physics do not recognize the force of me. My physical body though, must obey them so I must succumb to them in that context.
I affect the world around me on a daily basis in some very unique and unpredictable ways.
I am a force that does things at will and in many ways not according to any known physical laws. In fact it can be said that the force that is “us” generates it’s own set of changing laws called beliefs. The force that is us succumbs to these laws both by coercion of other similar forces and our choice. By obeying these laws we in turn can have a profound and unpredictable effect on the physical world. In effect, our changing Laws can become a force and in turn, affect the physical world in unpredictable ways according to the laws of physics. In addition to this we as individual forces can choose to act against the very laws we generate.
Perhaps thinking of us in terms of an energy force will allow science to have a better glimpse at that which is “us”.I find this perspective interesting and would like to see it explored. This message has been edited by 2ice_baked_taters, 02-23-2006 02:28 AMThis message has been edited by 2ice_baked_taters, 02-23-2006 02:34 AMThis message has been edited by 2ice_baked_taters, 02-23-2006 02:39 AM

Hello, 2ice_baked_taters! I think that this is a neat and relevant question, but I see no reason why you cannot include it in your other topic, here. Any other comments from other admins are welcomed.BTW if you disagree with me, get back to me here by March 7th and state your case.

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I agree that it is under the quite general blanket of what I started.
I Do not come to this sight to debate as many I see.
Debate for debates sake is simple argueing.
I have come here to have meaningful input and exchange.
Though debate may arise.
I can very clearly see the problem that arises when those of the religions of science and faith clash. I am trying like hell to avoid that foolishness. My main topic is too broad but I had a lot on my poor little mind. lol This is an aproach that I have never heard. The idea that we are a spirit and it dwells within the body had been around for ages but not described in the sense of physics. I had the hopes as this came to me that it might bridge some gap. The biggest obstacle that science has is that to the religion of science The world is flat until proven otherwise. We as spiritual beings know the world is not flat and you know what I mean.
I have been asked by some inteligent people here including administrators if I am "EVO" or"ID" That tells me something important about them especially when I have watched thier posting.
I see inteligent people treat EVO with the same fervor that crationists treat ID. That type of passion is not warranted to a theory. It smells the same to me It is either a theory or it isn't. It is no more foolish to defend the Bible than a theory.Both have thier very relavent purposes. I see them both clearly. Many do not. Science will teach us about the physical world and its laws but it will never do anything for the spirit. It will not comfort you when the bottom drops out. No theory will help the pain of a child or a parent dying. Rationality goes right out the window. I have seen it first hand.
Now I will tell you flat. I Do not believe in any way that the earth was created in 6 days and I was born Catholic. The general theoretical process of evolution makes sense but there are a lot of holes.
I also don't have a problem with having other forms of life evolve into what I am if it is the case.I feel that I am truly in the middle. Those who put thier faith in science can lose perspective just as those who burry thier head in religions can lose thiers.You mayhap expected a simple answer. You may find I often do not ablige These are the reasons why My topic should be kept separate so that it gets explored before it gets burried in the mess I created in my first forum. I will get better at this as I go.

I am now asking for some input from other admins concerning this PNT.I think that either yours or sidelineds may be promotable...they are very similar.

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I see this PNT, and the PNT from sidelined, as very different.I see this PNT as having to do with ESP, perhaps remote levitation. Such ideas have been scientifically researched and shown to be wrong.The PNT by sidelined has more to do with the mystery some see around consciousness, and the appeal to that mystery by ID proponents.I don't have any objection to promoting either of them. I suggest "What is Science" for this one, and "Miscellaneous ..." for the sidelined one. The sidelined PNT does look very similar to some other recent topics, and IMO his issues could as easily be discussed there.

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