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Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 7 (462856)
04-09-2008 11:57 PM


Two Emerging Events
1. All nations become fundamentalist Muslim and Islam prevails to dominate the world as per the Quran and the Haddith. These two verses are two of many cited here. I see this likelihood also depicted in the OT prophesies, particularly Ezekiel 37-39. I also see it emerging in current events.
Perpetual War
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah(disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allh), then certainly, Allh is All-Seer of what they do.
9:29. Fight against those
who (1) believe not in Allh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor
forbid that which has been forbidden by Allh and His Messenger
(4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e.
Islm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
2. Armageddon becomes a reality when the 2nd advent of messiah Jesus prevails to destroy the armies of the world and establish messianic world kingdom as prophesied.
Zechariah 14:1-16 ASV {For a reading of the entire chapter for more on this, click the link.}
Zechariah 14:1 Behold, a day of Jehovah cometh, when thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zechariah 14:3 Then shall Jehovah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the mount of Olives shall be cleft in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, `and there shall be' a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee by the valley of my mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azel; yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah; and Jehovah my God shall come, and all the holy ones with thee.
Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that there shall not be light; the bright ones shall withdraw themselves:
Zechariah 14:7 but it shall be one day which is known unto Jehovah; not day, and not night; but it shall come to pass, that at evening time there shall be light.
Zechariah 14:8 And it shall come to pass in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the eastern sea, and half of them toward the western sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zechariah 14:9 And Jehovah shall be King over all the earth: in that day shall Jehovah be one, and his name one.
Zechariah 14:10 All the land shall be made like the Arabah, from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem; and she shall be lifted up, and shall dwell in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananel unto the king's wine-presses.
Zechariah 14:11 And men shall dwell therein, and there shall be no more curse; but Jerusalem shall dwell safely.
Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith Jehovah will smite all the peoples that have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their sockets, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Zechariah 14:13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from Jehovah shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor.
Zechariah 14:14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the nations round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
Zechariah 14:15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in those camps, as that plague.
Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, Jehovah of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
For NT corroborating reference to this phenomonal event see
Revelation 16 ASV (Again, for full context click link)
Revelation 16:14 for they are spirits of demons, working signs; which go forth unto the kings of the whole world, to gather them together unto the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.
Revelation 16:15 (Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walked naked, and they see his shame.)
Revelation 16:16 And they gathered them together into the place which is called in Hebrew Har-magedon.
So get used to war, my friends. There is no other way this war on terror can possibly be won and end. This thread is intended to discuss and debate my POV and/or to offer other POVs about possible alternatives.
Comments and information relative to the topic may include aspects of religion but should not become so much so that we loose our way.
I'm not sure where this should go.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Provide Subtitle

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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 Message 2 by AdminNosy, posted 04-10-2008 12:26 AM Buzsaw has replied

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Message 2 of 7 (462860)
04-10-2008 12:26 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-09-2008 11:57 PM


Where does it go?
I'm afraid you'll have to figure out where it goes. Not being able to do so might hint that it isn't a well formed OP.
You say:
"...may include aspects of religion but should not become so much so that we loose our way."
But all I see in the post is religious commentary. With this start how can it be anything but religious?
If you think you want to talk about the war on terror and that it has a religious basis then this might fit into "Social Issues and Creation/Evolution". I take it that your view is that current terrorism is only religious based. You might want to state that explicitly since many commentators disagree with that.
If you want a pure discussion of the so-called "war on terror" then it might but ok in the coffee shop.
If you leave the religious commentary then it seems it is a "The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy" topic. Which you have run from before. Will you actually deal with it this time?

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Buzsaw
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Message 3 of 7 (462876)
04-10-2008 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminNosy
04-10-2008 12:26 AM


Re: Where does it go?
Since I'd like to keep it as is the Free For All would be fine with me.

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Buzsaw
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Message 4 of 7 (462890)
04-10-2008 10:53 AM


Free For All Request
If it is permissible for me to put this thread in Free For All I request that this thread be closed by an administrator in order that I may do so. Thanks

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Message 5 of 7 (462895)
04-10-2008 11:41 AM
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04-10-2008 10:53 AM


Re: Free For All Request -- Percy/Admin review please
That forum is not for science or religion topics. (as I read it)
As it is written the OP is only religious in nature so it can't be a free for all.

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Buzsaw
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Message 6 of 7 (462897)
04-10-2008 11:53 AM
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04-10-2008 11:41 AM


Re: Free For All Request -- Percy/Admin review please
I prefer Social and Religious Issues. I didn't think of that before. If not, perhaps Faith and Belief.

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Message 7 of 7 (462936)
04-10-2008 2:35 PM


Thread copied to the The War On Terror Will End When......... thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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