Hello, just hoping that this topic may fit at The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy.
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The word
baptism as well as Greek word
baptismu, both had the
same origin in the Latin root word
Vattésimu[i.e. augury] an ancient variant for
Vaticiniu [i.e. augury] - all originating from the same Latin word
Vates [i.e. augur].
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The word
baptism and its Latin rooted origin
Vattésimu[i.e. augury], both had the same origin within the ordinations that were left to the Roman church and its imposed doctrine. The same words, proceeding from the ”bestiae spiritual ministry - belong to its own doctrinal image and terminology applied to the devotional services which the beast was accustomed to offer. Its terminology has been reserved to it as part of its spiritual ordination as well as its throne that was left by Legion, the ancient serpent - and the same throne received a similar name i.e. Vatican - one of the seven hills of Rome. -
On the hill [i.e. called Vaticanus] where the Vatican was built,
there was a Vates[i.e. augur] prophetess who
communicated with Roman gods and made
augury [i.e. Vaticiniu].
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augur
noun
augur, auspex
(ancient Rome) a religious official who interpreted omens to guide public policy
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According to the Scriptures as originally written, the words used by the apostles in the ancient times were the terms
anoint and
unction, as attested in the Books of the Prophets.
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John[Yah-hanan/Johanan], who anointed with water, was called John Anointer by the apostles. The eternal words attest that there are four modalities (or types) of unction in the Scriptures:
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- - Unction with the most pure olive oil - The Anointed David was anointed with this unction by the Eternal YAHWEH through Samuel the Priest who completely overflowed on him, from above his head to down, a Hebrew salver full of olive oil of the unction.
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- - Unction with perfumed oil [ointment] - as He was reclining [at table], a woman came with an alabaster jar of perfume [ointment] of pure nard, very costly and precious; and as she broke the jar the entire oil overflowed on His head, and the house was filled with the fragrance.
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- - Unction with
promises [first-fruits] of the fire of the Holy Spirit
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- - Unction with water - John[Yah-hanan/Johanan], the Anointer, anointed the people with water,
Firstly, to prepare the way of YAHWEH, to make straight paths for the One Who was coming. Because by anointing with water he cried to the wilderness and to the desert souls saying that his
unction with water was just a sign, a shade of the reality that was to come:
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And this is the reality that was to come: The unction with promises [first-fruits] of the fire of the Holy Spirit through One about Whom John testified that He was coming.
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And John Anointer prepared the way and gave witness of the Truth; saying:
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"I'm anointing you here in the river with water, turning your old life in for a kingdom life. The real action comes next: The main character in this drama - compared to Him I'm a mere stagehand - will ignite the kingdom life within you, a fire within you, the Holy Spirit within you, changing you from the inside out. He's going to clean house--make a clean sweep of your lives. He will place everything true in its proper place before Elohim; everything false He will put out with the trash to be burned."
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Secondly, John the Anointer, anointed with water for
changes, his message was simple, but yet harshly austere, like his desert surroundings: "Change your life, change your ways. YAHWEH's kingdom is here."
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The water unction, being part of a procedure of the Law of literally washing one’s impurities from the sin of the flesh, spiritually, reminded the Hebrew people that, for sanctification and not for the sin, they had been saved from the waters of the Red Sea through Mosheh[which means; Saved from Waters].
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By whose name did John Anointer anoint?
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John Anointer anointed the people
by the name of I AM [YHWH/JHVH]: YAHWEH of the Hosts - the First, also the Last, the Eternal Name that remains eternally.
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1. - The temple was standing for the name of YAHWEH,
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2. - the Hebrew people who were going to be anointed by John, were called by the Name of YAHWEH - [the term “called by”; does also mean that the Hebrew people’s name carried part of the Eternal Name], and for that,
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what is it that would grasp their attention to walk into the desert?
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3. - the Hebrew people have
not gone to the desert just because they have heard about someone anointing at the Jordan river, but because
there was an audible and loud crying evidence making a connection between what John was doing and the One Whom had sent him to anoint with water, as it is said:
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Who sent me to anoint with water, He said to me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending and abiding on him, He it is Who anoints with [the] Holy Spirit.
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Was the water unction made through the laying up of hands or through immersion?
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The Unction of John Anointer proceeded in two stages:
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First stage: A complete bath with water to literally clean the skin from the impurities of the sin of the flesh as it is said in the Law that was given by YAHWEH through Mosheh[Saved from Waters] to the children of Ishrael.
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Second stage: The Unction as the meaning of the word properly says: - the act of anointing - which spiritually mean; to overflow a liquid total and completely from above to down. - The Unction was through
imposition[laying up] of both hands gathered to one another while retaining the water, because he said that his
unction with water was just a sign, a shade of the reality that was to come:
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And the reality that was to come, according to the Scriptures as originally written, was through the imposition [laying up] of hands of the Lamb[the Word YHWH become flesh] Who anointed and anoints with promises [first-fruits] of the fire of the Holy Spirit.
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The imposition[laying up] of both hands, palms very open; approximately from one to two inches of distance between the fingers of each hand; both hands gathered and pressed with all one’s strength to one another, each finger pressed to its respective, both hands gathered and pressed with intermittent and permanent trembling impact; it is the Sign of the Lamb, as it is attested by eternal words, saying:
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He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathers not with me, scatters.
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John
only anointed those who had truly passed through the first stage by taking a complete bath there before him. He also did
not anoint the people until the coming of the sunset, for after the complete bath was taken they were unclean until the coming of the sunset; [Spiritually a new day begins in the exact middle of every sunset]; before the eternal words of YAHWEH in the books of the Law; one
cannot be spiritually unclean and clean at the same time. As the LAMB said to Cephas: that who ever is [spiritually]clean does not need to bathe.
John
totally rejected the pharisees who deemed themselves as spiritually clean.
And as John Anointer did NOT anoint [whether chief priests or not]
who ever did NOT take a complete bath before him,
then, what makes one think that John, who was a PROPHET OF YAHWEH, would anoint who ever could be
spiritually unclean?
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The WATER UNCTION through imposition[laying up] of hands has been recognized as being the actual form which John was using while anointing, and this form has been proven to be the original one by COINCIDING with the texts that were published in the paraphrased The Living Bible (TLB) translation, regarding the SPIRITUAL MEANING of the words ANOINT and UNCTION in the books of the PROPHETS OF YAHWEH, and the same translation has been accessible whenever you google the keywords "king as you use the word" [approximately seven entries].
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What does that Scriptural text have to do with the unction? - View it:
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In the book written by the apostle John, Pilate asks the LAMB:
- Are you the king of Ishrael?
- “King” as the romans use the word or as it is spoken in Ishrael?
- Am I an israelee? - For what reason do the priest chiefs come before me to ask for roman soldiers to help them to
kill one of their own people? What have you done?
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View it: - “King” as the romans use the word or as it is spoken in Ishrael?
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It makes you wonder, What is the difference between “king” as the romans use the word and a similar word as spoken in Ishrael?
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And what does it have to do with the actual way of Unction for the [Holy] Spirit?
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Send me down a simple solution now: - The word “king” did
not exist in the ancient Hebrew with the meaning that the roman [or non-Hebrew] people attributed to it.
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What did exist was the word
Anointed - VAMLL'Q
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Saul was called
VaMéll'q - Anointed - and also the
VaMéll'q David was called
Anointed.
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The word “king” with the meaning that the roman [or non-Hebrew] people attributed and attribute to it means:
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Who ever is elected
‘‘ from down to above (or recognized) by the people as being a sovereign. - Elected or supported
from down, by the people.
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The word VAMLL'Q - Anointed - according to the Eternal Words does mean:
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Who ever is
elected, sealed or chosen from above to down.
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Saul and David were chosen
from above. They were called
VAMELLQ - Anointed - because they were elected
from above by YAHWEH of the Hosts.
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By the same direction that they were chosen, starting
from above, Anointed by the Higher Eternal and Celestial YAHWEH of the Hosts,
similarly [],
a LOADED POWERFULL AND
TOTAL UNCTION was completely
overflowed from above David's head
to down, a full Hebrew salver of olive oil of the Unction.
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Melchizedek - priest and king of Salém, actually was not called “king”, but VAMELL’Q
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VaMéll'q-Tsadeq [Anointed of Justice].
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The WATER UNCTION through imposition[laying up] of hands has been the actual form which John was using while anointing, for John did that which COINCIDES with the SPIRITUAL MEANING of the words
ANOINT and
UNCTION in the
Scriptural texts of the books of the PROPHETS OF YAHWEH,
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For John was A PROPHET OF YAHWEH.
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How can one see a
PROPHET OF YAHWEH using such polluted words like vattesimu[baptism] or vaticiniu[vaticinor] that belong to a scarlet[spiritually obscured] imposed doctrine[beast], when those words do
not exist in the books of the PROPHETS OF YAHWEH?
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This message has been edited by CrazyDiamond7, 03-16-2006 12:08 PM
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