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Author Topic:   Why It Is Right To Do Good To Others
Stile
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Message 1 of 4 (403822)
06-05-2007 10:05 AM


The purpose of this thread is to discuss the validity of understanding what is right and to propose a full foundation for the existance of 'good' without the need of God or any other supernatural entity.
There are two questions to answer:
What is good?
-because we need to know what it is in order to do it
Why do people do good?
-what sort of motivations make a person want to do good
What is good?
Good is increasing the positive inner-feelings of another being.
The only way to know if you've actually done some good is to get the information from the being you're dealing with. Sometimes this is easy and the information is freely offered with a head-nod or a smile. Sometimes it is difficult, and we are only able to use the knowledge we have to hopefully affect someone (or something) in a good way.
Why do people do good?
This is why I do good:
1. I interact with others.
2. Interacting with others will cause me to affect them.
3. This can leave a Good, Bad, or Meh effect.
4. I am capable of empathy.
5. If I had a choice, I would like Good things to happen to me.
6. Since I do have a choice on how I affect others, I will attempt to leave Good effects rather then Bad or Meh effects.
7. When I interact with others, I'm going to do my best to cause Good effects.
It's been noted that without God, one cannot answer the question "Why is it right to do good?".
It is right to do good if we want to increase the amount of good in this world.
There are many motivations for wanting to increase the amount of good in this world, a few examples:
-not wanting the bad in this world to increase
-leaving the world a better place for children
-hopefully getting some personal benefits sometime in this life or possibly even the next
-even just wanting to increase the amount of good is a motivation in itself
I have answered the questions "What is good?" and "Why do people do good?" without the use of a supernatural being. I would like anyone to show me where my reasoning is flawed or incomplete (religiously or not, I would like to alter my morality for the better if I can). I would also like for anyone to offer other answers for the two questions so we we can compare and discuss differences.
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This thread was started because I was pulling another thread off-topic.
The original topic is here:
Message 1
The discussion was between anastasia and I starting around Message 61 and Message 68 or so.
Edited by Stile, : Started Fresh

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Message 2 of 4 (403853)
06-05-2007 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
06-05-2007 10:05 AM


Start Fresh
I understand that you're attempting to continue a discussion, but I prefer threads start fresh.
IOW, state the question and then make your case. I prefer readers not have to wade through another thread to determine what page you're on.
My reasons for this line of thinking are that starting fresh gives readers a full view of your position and starting fresh also prevents the possibility that anastasia's position is misunderstood.
I have no problem with link referencing the thread and where the discussion started, but I'd prefer an OP not be set up like a response. You didn't even link to the post you're quoting.
Another Admin is welcome to promote this if they feel I'm being unreasonable, but the OP needs work for me to promote this topic.

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Stile
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From: Ontario, Canada
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 3 of 4 (403871)
06-05-2007 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPD
06-05-2007 1:45 PM


Re: Start Fresh
At your whim
Anything else?
Oh, this should probably go into the same forum as the thread I was going off-topic was in. The Religion and Morality in Society place, I think... I forget what it's called. Ah, here it is:
Social Issues and Creation/Evolution
Edited by Stile, : Forgot to add which Forum this is requesting to go into

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Message 4 of 4 (403881)
06-05-2007 4:19 PM


Topic Promoted to Social Issues and Creation/Evolution
Thread copied to the Why It Is Right To Do Good To Others thread in the Social Issues and Creation/Evolution forum.
This copy of the thread has been closed.

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