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Topic: Are Angels Birds or Mammals? Or Maybe Feathered Dinosaurs?
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 1 of 31 (349477)
09-15-2006 8:30 PM
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I have always wondered about angels. What would their skeletons look like? Are their wings modified forelimbs, like birds? The wings seem kind of stubby for actual powered flight, but they would probably work for gliding. Would they have to keep flapping their wings to keep from falling out of heaven? Does someone have to help them get dressed or are their long flowing robes backless? Can they be classified as Phylum Vertebrata. Maybe they would be in a new phylum...Hexapodavertabrata. Any thoughts?
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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Taz
Member (Idle past 3322 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: 07-18-2006
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Message 2 of 31 (349488)
09-15-2006 8:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Tanypteryx
09-15-2006 8:30 PM
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Go see x-men 3.
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Nutcase
Member (Idle past 5813 days) Posts: 20 From: Brooklyn, New York Joined: 09-14-2006
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Message 3 of 31 (349490)
09-15-2006 9:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Tanypteryx
09-15-2006 8:30 PM
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Typically, religious miracles do not yeild scientific explantions, but it is safe to say that humans, ostriches, and porcupines played a significant role in the angels' makeup. Edited by Nutcase, : No reason given.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 4 of 31 (349491)
09-15-2006 9:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Tanypteryx
09-15-2006 8:30 PM
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angels have wings now?
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Where are the transitionals.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 6 of 31 (349494)
09-15-2006 9:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by jar
09-15-2006 9:10 PM
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MACROEVOLUTION!!!!!!~~~~eleven
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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angels have wings now? Well, I was referring to the artistic renderings that are often depicted in Christian art. They also often have a halo but I can't think of a biological feature that could have evolved from.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 8 of 31 (349496)
09-15-2006 9:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by jar
09-15-2006 9:10 PM
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Where are the transitionals Drat! I meant to ask that in my opening question. Here's another one. If an angel fossil was found would it falsify the Theory of Evolution?
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 9 of 31 (349498)
09-15-2006 9:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by Tanypteryx
09-15-2006 9:23 PM
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Well, I was referring to the artistic renderings that are often depicted in Christian art. They also often have a halo but I can't think of a biological feature that could have evolved from. it's so they don't get pooped on by birds. Edited by arachnophilia, : borked tag
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Quetzal
Member (Idle past 5902 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 01-09-2002
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Message 10 of 31 (349500)
09-15-2006 9:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by Tanypteryx
09-15-2006 9:28 PM
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Would they be classified in the superfamily Hominoidea? Maybe Homo caelestus or Homo aves or something? Would they be a different genera? What would be the last common ancestor? Now if creationists could answer that, then we'd really be on to something.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 11 of 31 (349501)
09-15-2006 9:52 PM
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A lot of Christians seem to believe that people become angels after they die. Do they have to go to flight school before they are allowed to fly? Or is it instinctive, just reprogramed into their genes when they get their wings? I think they would have to be a new phylum, not just a new genus.
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Nutcase
Member (Idle past 5813 days) Posts: 20 From: Brooklyn, New York Joined: 09-14-2006
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Message 12 of 31 (349502)
09-15-2006 9:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 10 by Quetzal
09-15-2006 9:43 PM
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Sorry, but the world of the "religious nutcases" already has an answer to this question. http://www.faithreason.org/farmdeb.htm Just to save you the time of reading through the nonsence:
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Hovind declared that God would not use the evil process of evolution (suffering and death of animals and man) to create the world. Callahan acknowledged such suffering but asserted that the perversion of the universe was caused by the fall of Satan and his angels before the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years ago.
Oh dear.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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Maybe the halo is a bug-zapper to keep mosquitoes away, or a warning light so they won't get hit by airplanes.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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Quetzal
Member (Idle past 5902 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 01-09-2002
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I think the halo is merely a mis-identified ionization trail caused by their high-energy nanowave God radio.
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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haven't you heard about st elmo's (the little red guy) fire St. Elmo's fire - Wikipedia obviously there is a lot of static electricity with the robes and the feathers, so the halo could be a magnetic protective device ... or it could be a produce similar to Naga Fireballs Naga fireball - Wikipedia particularly if beans are involved.
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