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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Well, I love your mind. What a nice thing to say. Thanks.
I kind of wish you weren't also goodlooking Well, we have to take people as we find them, Faith. Nobody's perfect. But it might help if I let you know that in reality I'm a fumbling bungler.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Maybe it helps some. But that sounds a tad depressive to me.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Maybe it helps some. But that sounds a tad depressive to me I wanted to let you know what I was really like. But you did make my day.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm glad I made your day.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Silent H Member (Idle past 5849 days) Posts: 7405 From: satellite of love Joined: |
I found an interesting quote by CS Lewis on the topic and thought you might be interested. Those who follow him as a Xian writer might be even more interested...
"Mortal lovers must not try to remain at the first step; for lasting passion is the dream of a harlot and from it we wake in despair." - C.S. Lewis Perhaps God made love and passion only temporary for a reason? holmes "...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: There are different kinds of love and different kinds of passion.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
IIRC that is from Pilgrim'sRegression which was Lewis first novel. It is semi-autobiographical, and that particular phrase was not dealing with romance or sex at all, but only with his journey towards his final Christian Faith. It is an allegorical reference to his early Christian days where his belief was an unquestioning infatuation and his later belief which was calmer, more mature, more questioning.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That makes sense, jar, consistent with what I recall of Lewis' writings. Finally something I can agree with you about.
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Silent H Member (Idle past 5849 days) Posts: 7405 From: satellite of love Joined: |
that particular phrase was not dealing with romance or sex at all, but only with his journey towards his final Christian Faith. It is an allegorical reference to his early Christian days where his belief was an unquestioning infatuation and his later belief which was calmer, more mature, more questioning. Well that could be true. I did not find it while reading lewis, I found it in a couple online services for quotations. However: 1) It was in the sex section, not faith. Its possible they were in error of course but that looks like what he is dicussing.2) If he was going to choose allegory for faith, why on earth would he choose sex? 3) I don't see how the quote suggests what you claim is the allegory. I mean it could still be allegory about faith, but this does not seem to be the difference between infatuatuon and mature questioning. It seems to be about wanting initial emotion to last forever, without accepting its natural conclusion. holmes "...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)
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Silent H Member (Idle past 5849 days) Posts: 7405 From: satellite of love Joined: |
This guy suggests that CS Lewis was discussing love, with respect to marriage...
Love is moral even without legal marriage, but marriage is immoral without love. (Ellen Key) If Ellen Kay equates "love" with "romantic feelings" then today's quote puts forward a bad thought. CS Lewis refers to romantic love as "the first step" in marriage and observes (with typically perfect accuracy): Mortal lovers must not try to remain at the first step; for lasting passion is the dream of a harlot and from it we wake in despair. Note this writer is a Xian, discussing Xian concepts. holmes "...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
There are different kinds of love and different kinds of passion Yes, there are 2 types of love: (1)romance and (2)affection. Romance is temporary. Affection can last a lifetime. Also, I would distinguish between romance and sexual desire per se. There have been many women I wanted to go to bed with that I was not in the least enchanted by. I just liked their bodies. I suppose one might argue that I was enchanted by their legs or something, but of course by romance I mean enchantment with the whole being. It doesn't happen very often. But these remarks are just based on my own experience. For all I know, other people might be different.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well that could be true. I did not find it while reading lewis, I found it in a couple online services for quotations. However: I don't doubt that at all, but I'm pretty sure it was from his first novel, and although it's been many, many decades since reading it, it was one of the books we read and discussed as part of Sacred Studies. Again,it's been a long,long time since I read it, I doubt I even have a copy anymore. But the analogy is not that far off. The camparision with the overwhelming infatuation of many people when they first discover something new, be it sex, love, religion or Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee, is far different than what one experience as one gains greater familarity, experience and maturity. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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