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Author Topic:   Warning to Salty!!!
Adminnemooseus
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Message 1 of 25 (36399)
04-07-2003 7:18 AM


The administration of has bent over backwards, to let you express your views. This included the "Let Salty be Salty".

This is ending. Please see and follow the guidelines at
http:///WebPages/ForumRules.html

Also, please note the discussion leading up to, and including the message at www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=24&m=66#66 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=24&m=66#66">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=24&m=66#66

My personal variation on the rules:

1) Try to stay in the vacinity of the topic.
2) Bring something of substance into your messages (not just links/citations to papers elsewhere).
3) Be nice to others.

If these guidelines won't work for you, please just go away.

Or, if you refuse to mend your ways, a suspension of posting priviledges will be following.

This message is your warning.

Adminnemooseus

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Message 2 of 25 (36410)
04-07-2003 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Adminnemooseus
04-07-2003 7:18 AM


Hi Adminnemooseus,

I'll let you take the lead on this one. Please feel free to take whatever actions you may deem appropriate if such should become necessary in your judgment.

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 3 of 25 (36450)
04-07-2003 8:51 PM


Bump
I am certainly open to member opinion on the great Salty situation. I don't have any special talent in determining if and when Salty has crossed the line into unacceptable behavior.

Adminnemooseus

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wj
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Message 4 of 25 (36451)
04-07-2003 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Adminnemooseus
04-07-2003 8:51 PM


Re: Bump
I certainly don't want to argue for giving salty special treatment or pampering. However it is obvious that he wishes to feed his martyr complex by being suspended or banned for by his "persecutors". I suggest that the most telling strategy would be to ignore his ad hominems and asides and repeatedly ask for evidence to support his assertions, or repeatedly refer him to contradicory evidence which he has failed to address. The lack of substance for his position should become obvious to interested readers and it may even penetrate to salty's cognitive regions.

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Message 5 of 25 (36476)
04-08-2003 7:21 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by wj
04-07-2003 9:05 PM


Re: Bump
The strategy you describe was the one we were following, but other members are now complaining about the double standard, since we're still enforcing the guidelines for other members. For instance, Mammuthus recently decided to go inactive when he received a 1-day suspension because of what he felt was inconsistent moderating, and SLPx followed shortly thereafter.

I believe moderating is as much art as science, but as time goes by and moderating remains a significant issue I'm becoming more and more convinced that participation here should be contingent upon demonstration of some minimum level of competence for both discussion and logical thinking.

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John
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Message 6 of 25 (36488)
04-08-2003 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Admin
04-08-2003 7:21 AM


Re: Bump
quote:
I believe moderating is as much art as science, but as time goes by and moderating remains a significant issue I'm becoming more and more convinced that participation here should be contingent upon demonstration of some minimum level of competence for both discussion and logical thinking.

OK. I agree in principle, but can you think of a mechanism by which you can actually determine competence and skill with logic?

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Dr_Tazimus_maximus
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Message 7 of 25 (36490)
04-08-2003 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by John
04-08-2003 10:51 AM


Re: Bump
How about giving everyone the analytical portion of the GRE's

Sorry, just kidding. I really do not think that there is a good answer to this question so I thought that I would try to lighten the mood a little. I am trying to think of a helpful suggestion w.r.t. the Mods allowing people a free flow of ideas and statements without the possible resulting chaos and loss of focus but have not thought of one yet. If I do I will certianly post it to the Mods as I would rather keep as many different posters here for discussion as possible. Even Salty, who has discussed almost nothing to date.

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"Chance favors the prepared mind." L. Pasteur
Taz


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John
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Message 8 of 25 (36494)
04-08-2003 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Dr_Tazimus_maximus
04-08-2003 11:01 AM


Re: Bump
quote:
How about giving everyone the analytical portion of the GRE's

LOL... I was thinking along the lines of those online IQ tests. Maybe build a quiz right into the registration sequence...

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Message 9 of 25 (36562)
04-09-2003 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by John
04-08-2003 11:41 AM


Re: Bump
Don't set the standards to high, we do after all need creationists to debate against

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He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy


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John
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Message 10 of 25 (36574)
04-09-2003 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by compmage
04-09-2003 8:10 AM


Yes, we do. And we are in short supply right now.

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 11 of 25 (37163)
04-16-2003 6:41 PM


Salty suspension
Per the message at www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=194&m=141#141 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=194&m=141#141">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=194&m=141#141, Salty is under a 24 hour suspension of posting privledges, and SLPx is warned.

Adminnemooseus


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wj
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Message 12 of 25 (37179)
04-16-2003 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Adminnemooseus
04-16-2003 6:41 PM


Re: Salty suspension
I agree, Adminmoose, equating anyone to Safarti is reprehensible.

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 13 of 25 (37244)
04-17-2003 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Adminnemooseus
04-16-2003 6:41 PM


Re: Salty suspension
Been away from my computer, so the 24 hours stretched a bit long.

Anyhow, Salty's posting privledges have now been restored.

Adminnemooseus


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Mammuthus
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Message 14 of 25 (38432)
04-30-2003 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Adminnemooseus
04-17-2003 11:13 PM


Re: Salty suspension
Moose, if you or any of the other Admin's have posting priveleges at Terry Trainor's site, could someone please inform salty that there is now a thread in the Free for All where he may feel free to debate his hypothesis. I started it to 1) give him an opportunity to continue 2) and keep it unmoderated as his threads kept going off topic and ending up closed 3) not give him the satisfaction of claiming he and his ideas were surpressed here.

Cheers,
M


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Adminnemooseus
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Message 15 of 25 (38526)
05-01-2003 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Mammuthus
04-30-2003 10:38 AM


Sheesh - Salty's here, and you seem to want to get rid of him. Salty's not here, and you want me to get him back.

I'm not going to try to get Salty back. Salty is unlikely to say anything you haven't already heard. As I see it, all that is likely, is a renewal of flames.

Adminnemooseus


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