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NimLore
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Message 1 of 39 (20969)
10-28-2002 9:40 PM


I am curious as to any creationist theories that tie in with current archeaological finds.. especially any to do with Ebla and the Patriarchs..
I have heard of Jack Cuozzo, Buried Alive.. but have not yet read it.. any comments on this book? Or things others would add to the theory?

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nator
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Message 2 of 39 (21007)
10-29-2002 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by NimLore
10-28-2002 9:40 PM


quote:
Originally posted by NimLore:
I am curious as to any creationist theories that tie in with current archeaological finds.. especially any to do with Ebla and the Patriarchs..
I have heard of Jack Cuozzo, Buried Alive.. but have not yet read it.. any comments on this book? Or things others would add to the theory?

Jack Cuozzo is an Creationist orthodontist, so he therefore feels quite qualified to comment upon paleontology.

Here is a good critical treatment of Cuozzo's claims:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/buriedalive.html


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Message 3 of 39 (21015)
10-29-2002 10:47 AM
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10-29-2002 10:07 AM


quote:
Originally posted by schrafinator:
Jack Cuozzo is an Creationist orthodontist, so he therefore feels quite qualified to comment upon paleontology.

I don't want to side with the bad guys but Cuozzo actually has training in at least one appropriate field-- that of forensic anthropology. And he was trained by someone with considerable standing in the field. This is absurd for a creationist. Weird....

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Karl
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Message 4 of 39 (21026)
10-29-2002 11:50 AM


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In it, Cuozzo argues that Neandertals were humans who lived for hundreds of years, and that their distinctive skull features were caused by extrapolating the changes which normally occur in modern human skulls as they age.

I'll put that in the fruitcake files for later, I think.


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Brad McFall
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Message 5 of 39 (21028)
10-29-2002 11:52 AM
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10-29-2002 11:50 AM


If you had relatives at PENN STATE you may think twice of saving this till Christmas.
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NimLore
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Message 6 of 39 (21363)
11-02-2002 2:19 PM
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10-29-2002 11:52 AM


I have received Jacks book and am astounded at his findings...
I am very suprised that the neanderthal man bones were tampered with by the evolutionists in control... and I sure hope that there becomes a greater accountability to those museums/peoples that have the orignal fossils, and that those evolutionists continue to allow trained creationists to partake in the evaluation of these fossils...
If it does not happen than it is proof enough to me that the whole modern evolutionist movement is based soley upon money and not for the furthering of science!
Only together with us pushing for the truth will we be able to uncover it, that is until God says otherwise.
Praise God for people like Jack Cuozzo

Can anyone give me other creationist titles that are worth the read?


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nos482
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Message 7 of 39 (21374)
11-02-2002 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by NimLore
11-02-2002 2:19 PM


Originally posted by NimLore:

I have received Jacks book and am astounded at his findings...

But then again you also believe in the bible as being all true as well. So, it isn't all that hard to trick you, apprarently.

I am very suprised that the neanderthal man bones were tampered with by the evolutionists in control... and I sure hope that there becomes a greater accountability to those museums/peoples that have the orignal fossils, and that those evolutionists continue to allow trained creationists to partake in the evaluation of these fossils...

It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!

If it does not happen than it is proof enough to me that the whole modern evolutionist movement is based soley upon money and not for the furthering of science!

Sure, it is not as if the Church is quite hard up as well.

Only together with us pushing for the truth will we be able to uncover it, that is until God says otherwise.
Praise God for people like Jack Cuozzo

What you are pushing for is far from being the real truth.

Can anyone give me other creationist titles that are worth the read?

Why don't you try looking in the fiction section of any book store?

[This message has been edited by nos482, 11-02-2002]


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NimLore
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Message 8 of 39 (21381)
11-02-2002 4:13 PM
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11-02-2002 4:05 PM


It is not my problem if you have a blatant disregard for facts.
My objective here is not to get into insult slinging but rather to look at what proof there is..
Now why don't you try and actually prove to me that the things I said are untrue... because to me and many other honest people, we see these as observable facts.
So if you would keep your insults to yourself and act more like a real man, things would run much more smoothly.
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gene90
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Message 9 of 39 (21395)
11-02-2002 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by NimLore
11-02-2002 2:19 PM


[QUOTE][B]and I sure hope that there becomes a greater accountability to those museums/peoples that have the orignal fossils, and that those evolutionists continue to allow trained creationists to partake in the evaluation of these fossils...[/QUOTE]

[/B]

All science (except for weapons research) is open.

[QUOTE][B]If it does not happen than it is proof enough to me that the whole modern evolutionist movement is based soley upon money and not for the furthering of science![/QUOTE]

[/B]

How can you possibly make money off evolution? It's like making money off gravity.


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nos482
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Message 10 of 39 (21400)
11-02-2002 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by NimLore
11-02-2002 4:13 PM


Originally posted by NimLore:

It is not my problem if you have a blatant disregard for facts.

Only when they are gathered through prayer alone as is your stated case.

My objective here is not to get into insult slinging but rather to look at what proof there is..

If that were true you wouldn't be a creationists.

Now why don't you try and actually prove to me that the things I said are untrue... because to me and many other honest people, we see these as observable facts.

At one time people thought that the Sun went around the Earth because that is what they saw.

So if you would keep your insults to yourself and act more like a real man, things would run much more smoothly.

Irrelevant.


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gene90
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Posts: 1610
Joined: 12-25-2000


Message 11 of 39 (21406)
11-02-2002 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by nos482
11-02-2002 5:23 PM


[QUOTE][B]If that were true you wouldn't be a creationists.[/QUOTE]

[/B]

Foul.

[QUOTE][B]At one time people thought that the Sun went around the Earth because that is what they saw.[/QUOTE]

[/B]

So you're attacking science now?

[This message has been edited by gene90, 11-02-2002]


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NimLore
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Message 12 of 39 (21413)
11-02-2002 5:56 PM
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11-02-2002 5:15 PM


THink of the money that is in the evolutionary world.. would you tell me that all those textbooks going into schools is not a multi billion dollar industry..... The devil is a crafty one..LOL
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NimLore
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Message 13 of 39 (21414)
11-02-2002 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by nos482
11-02-2002 5:23 PM


Now now.. I did not only get my answers through prayer.. you see there is a process to us Christians thinking.. I think it is summed up in Jesus words on Asking Seeking and Knocking.

I asked God through prayer for answers and quickly comes people into my life with answers or at least starting points... I certainly enjoy the task of learning what is true...


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TrueCreation
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Message 14 of 39 (21416)
11-02-2002 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by NimLore
11-02-2002 6:00 PM


"I asked God through prayer for answers and quickly comes people into my life with answers or at least starting points... I certainly enjoy the task of learning what is true... "
--I have asked God for wisdom & knowledge. While the wise do not boast, I would say that in my opinion, I received and still am receiving what I have asked for. I also don't think science text books are close to a 'multi-billion dollar industry', nor are scientists themselves in the money. You have to have a great determination & a pervasive desire to know how things work to become a scientist, it is not at all a wealthy occupation.

--Also, don't bother with nos, the majority of the regulars on this board have pretty much concurred with each other that he is an ignoramus. Though I am one to add that I find it evident he is a pre-teen, or at least acts like one, worse than the Hovind whom you parrot. (No I will not reply to your response to this nos...)

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NimLore
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Message 15 of 39 (21419)
11-02-2002 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by TrueCreation
11-02-2002 6:13 PM


Granted that most scientists are not in it for the money, but rather the passion of it or what ever it is that drives us to do it.. but that still does not negate the fact that time equals money in our society... which to me does not mean we are slaves to money or even serve it.. but the evidence I see so far boldy states that something is up on the side of conspiracy, as to the tampering of evidence of fossils...

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