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Author Topic:   It's a World Cup year!
Huntard
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Message 226 of 291 (566834)
06-28-2010 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by caffeine
06-28-2010 5:14 AM


Re: Go Dutch!
caffeine writes:

They haven't drawn much attention because they've been balls. Winning an easy group by playing not quite as bad as your opposition doesn't amount to 'starting well'. They won't face any serious opposition till the quarter finals though, so they have plenty of time to raise their game.


This is true as well. If they don't improve soon they'll get their asses handed to them.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 227 of 291 (566837)
06-28-2010 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by Huntard
06-28-2010 5:16 AM


Re: Go Dutch!
Hope that helped a bit.

Yes, thanks, that was interesting. Didn't need to hear how your navy once whooped us, though; we're feeling bad enough as it is.

Anything else you'd like to know?

Yes. How can England get into the final of either the World Cup or Euro Championship? This question is open to any of those nations who seem to manage this on a regular basis. (At least once every 20 years.)

Meanwhile:

Why did the chicken cross the road?

FIFA: "The chicken did not cross the road."


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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 228 of 291 (566838)
06-28-2010 6:47 AM
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06-28-2010 5:14 AM


Re: Go Dutch!
I'm so happy not to live in England now. Just imagining the endless chorus of self-pitying lamentations about the disallowed goal, as if it mattered in the face of how totally outclassed we were, sends shivers down my spine.

Apart from Fabio Cappello, nobody is using that excuse. Strangely, it makes it easier to accept the defeat because we were outplayed, rather than by thinking we were hard done by.

I hate to say it, but there's so much we can learn from the Germans. There's so much they get right at every tournament. You can't qualify for at least the quarter finals at every World Cup, and reach 7 finals, without doing a lot of things right. We keep doing things our way and it never works. I really hope the FA doesn't consider the only option is to change the manager. We played poorly at the last World Cup too (where we bumbled into the quarter finals by playing a succession of poor teams), and didn't even qualify for the last Euros. There are fundamental problems with the way we approach the international game.


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Huntard
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Message 229 of 291 (566877)
06-28-2010 11:51 AM


And we're through
Though the playing sucked again, it is 2-1 victory for The Netherlands.

Bizarre penalty in the last second of play, but meh.

Probably facing Brazil (or Chile) next. The first real test.


    
Blue Jay
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Message 230 of 291 (566880)
06-28-2010 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-28-2010 4:28 AM


Re: Go Dutch!
Hi, Jumped Up Chimpanzee.

JUC writes:

I'd like to see Holland do well.

Personally, I'd actually rather just hear about the Netherlands doing well, unless they decide to liven up their playing style a bit so that it's worth actually seeing.


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Straggler
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Message 231 of 291 (566883)
06-28-2010 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-28-2010 4:18 AM


Re: Nail Biter
An old, grey, wizened JUC says: "Fuck."

A hungover Straggler says ditto.

A chastening experience. Those pesky Germans did it again.

After the game we got a ball out, went over to the park and did a replay of the game amongst ourselves. I am glad to say that I scored 3 and setup 2 with an eventual score of 11-9 to England captained by my good self.

If I can do that whilst barely spilling any beer at all as I run round the pitch beer-can in hand I fail to see why the professionals can't do similarly well.

I suppose to be fair our version of Germany had a girl in goal and an 11 year old kid up-front.

I have transferred my now relatively disinterested allegiance to Ghana.


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Straggler
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Message 232 of 291 (566884)
06-28-2010 12:22 PM
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06-27-2010 1:50 PM


Re: Nail Biter
You should have listened to your liver.

My liver is waving a white flag of surrender as I write.

It is probably just as well England have gone out. It may well have saved me from both alcohol induced hospitalisation and divorce.


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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 233 of 291 (566885)
06-28-2010 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Blue Jay
06-28-2010 12:10 PM


Re: Go Dutch!
Personally, I'd actually rather just hear about the Netherlands doing well, unless they decide to liven up their playing style a bit so that it's worth actually seeing.

To be honest, that's all I had done (heard about them). Although, I'd got the impression they were playing quite well. Apparently not, except for winning 4 consecutive games, which is something England have never done in the finals of any tournament since I started watching them in 1982.

Still, if Holland can go all the way without playing well, it gives me hope for England's future.


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Huntard
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Message 234 of 291 (566892)
06-28-2010 1:03 PM
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06-28-2010 12:20 PM


Re: Nail Biter
Straggler writes:

If I can do that whilst barely spilling any beer at all as I run round the pitch beer-can in hand I fail to see why the professionals can't do similarly well.


Because in the real game, the Germans weren't drinking.

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Blue Jay
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Message 235 of 291 (566893)
06-28-2010 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-28-2010 12:28 PM


Re: Go Dutch!
Hi, JUC.

JUC writes:

Although, I'd got the impression they were playing quite well.

They're playing well : it's just hideously boring .

As an illustration, against Japan, they controlled the ball through most of the first half, but the average position of the ball throughout that half was on the Dutch side of the field. Two-thirds of their passes were from one fullback to another. Apparently, the offense wasn't setting stuff up for them, and they couldn't risk Japan getting any touches, so they just piddled around back there.

The statistics in the preceding paragraph may have been made up by myself.

Edited by Bluejay, : No reason given.


-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

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Huntard
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Message 236 of 291 (566894)
06-28-2010 1:04 PM
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06-28-2010 12:28 PM


Re: Go Dutch!
Jumped Up Chimpanzee writes:

To be honest, that's all I had done (heard about them). Although, I'd got the impression they were playing quite well.


They weren't.

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Blue Jay
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Message 237 of 291 (566895)
06-28-2010 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Huntard
06-28-2010 1:03 PM


Re: Nail Biter
Hi, Huntard.

Huntard writes:

...the Germans weren't drinking.

These four words are so seldom strung together that I feel like you must have made a grammatical error somewhere.


-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

Darwin loves you.


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Huntard
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Message 238 of 291 (566897)
06-28-2010 1:13 PM
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06-28-2010 1:07 PM


Re: Nail Biter
Bluejay writes:

These four words are so seldom strung together that I feel like you must have made a grammatical error somewhere.



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Straggler
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Message 239 of 291 (566898)
06-28-2010 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Huntard
06-28-2010 1:03 PM


Re: Nail Biter
Because in the real game, the Germans weren't drinking.

Aha! Those cunning Germans. Not drinking 6 pints before the match and refusing to ingest or carry more beer whilst actually playing.

Now why didn't the England team think of that?

These fancy foreign coaching methods will never catch-on here.


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Message 240 of 291 (566905)
06-28-2010 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Straggler
06-28-2010 12:22 PM


Re: Nail Biter
My liver is waving a white flag of surrender as I write.


"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." – Blaise Pascal

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