Who should we hate?

Pikers.We learned to do it better and faster.I don't see the major example of US genocide on the list by the way, what we did to the Native Americans, which was of course the major example to the world of how to commit genocide efficiently.But I am talking about threats that exist today.The US today is the one nation that really has the tools and infrastructure to deliver mass death to any spot in the world. We have the tools, the personnel and the infrastructure needed. No Islamic nation has anything like the capability that the US possesses.We are also the primary National power invading and subjugating other nations. Sure, Iraq invaded Kuwait after the US gave them the go ahead, but we turned right around and totally destroyed their military capability in a matter of hours.There is no Islamic Nation that can seriously threaten the US. They can do damage, cause some destruction, but simply do NOT have the capability to do more.No other people at any time in history has the capability for destruction that the US maintains.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

The greatest single mass murder of a class of people is that of the US toward the Native American (between 10 - 15 million). The second is the Holocaust (between 4 - 11 million).Some wild numbers of around 100 million have been said to be more accurate, but there is no consensus on that. It's been supported by a few like David Stannard in American Holocaust.- Oni

The big thing about the laundry list that was provided is that it is all examples similar to the US genocide of local mass murder. What I was talking about was who is a threat to the world, and honestly, the US is about the only nation that has the capabilities to be a threat to all other nations.Many countries even today can be a threat to their own populations, even a threat to their neighbors or one maybe two other small countries. Only the US today has the capability to be a threat to ANY and EVERY other nation, to any peoples anywhere in the world at any time.There are no Islamic nations that could possibly threaten the continuation of the US or most other nations. They could do very great damage, maybe even destroy part of a US city, but they cannot threaten continuance the US.Their biggest weapon is one of Mass Hysteria.In addition, it is only the primarily US based Christian Fundamentalists that believe in and hope for Armageddon.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

The list I found on the internet and posted above had two much larger genocides.Why are you pretending those don't exist?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Oh I'm not, at all. I agree that if we sum up the entire history of humanity -vs- the US, all of humanity would win. But single greatest mass murder can only go to one single country, and the US holds that honor. Followed by the lesser of the two evils, Hitler and Nazi Germany. Funny thing about that is, the government that caused the Holocaust has since been destroyed, while the one that caused the genocide of the native Americans is still in power.That's gotta feel right peachy for native Americans to know that. Looking at an American flag must be like jewish people looking at a swastika.Jews got a country though, native Americans got dick...except for casinos.- Oni

The difference is that Jesus and his apostles taught no violence. Not so with Mohammed and his apostles. Jesus's messianic rule, prophesied will not be instituted by any violence from his followers. None of the prophets prophesy Christians ever fighting anyone, anytime, anywhere.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Don't forget that some of the early genocide against American Indians occurred before the country was founded, and some occurred under the flags of Spain and Mexico. And that a significant portion was due to disease that spread ahead of the settlers, originating with explorers from several nations.Don't forget Central and South America, which can't be blamed on Americans.And those numbers don't approach those of Mao and Stalin anyway. You keep forgetting that the numbers racked up by those two sweeties were several times greater than anything in the US.Why is that?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

The question is "where is the threat"?Islamic Nations presents no major threat to the world or even to the US. Only the US has the capability of actually making the Apocalypse reality instead of fantasy and only Christian Fundamentalists believe in the Apocalypse.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Because neither Mao or Stalin are even around to be a threat today.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Evidently their followers weren't listening.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

Yes, I agree. That is why I am sceptical of most of the labels I encounter. General over arching labels like Christianity and Islam are good for selecting the menu but not so much for launching military campaigns.Oni had some good points about the nature of association.

That was not the issue of this particular post.The issue was the claim that the genocide against Native Americans exceeded any others. That is clearly not the case.There is a clear effort in this thread to ignore the massive genocides of Mao and Stalin and try to pin the worst genocide on the US. That is clearly inaccurate.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Or by the time of Mao and Stalin we were better at record keeping and propaganda.BUT regardless, the thread is looking forward. I really doubt we will face much of a threat from either Mao or Stalin in the future.Secondly, both of those were also involving internal domestic genocide just as the US genocide against the Native Americans.The nation that is a real threat to the other nations of the World today is the US.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

But that was not the claim I was refuting! The claim was made that the genocide against Native Americans was the single greatest genocide in history, and I simply pointed out two far greater cases of genocide.Since then there has been nothing but denial and downplaying of those two massive examples of genocide--Mao and Stalin.Seems like folks are just looking for excuses to bash the US, and to ignore or apologize for far worse genocides elsewhere. Why is that? Meaningless. That is not an excuse in any of these cases. I think you are stretching things way too far here. We probably could take over any part of the world we wanted to: why haven't we? Why have we given most of our 19th century colonial possessions the choice of independence, which several have accepted? Why have we helped rebuild our enemies of World War II and returned their independence?Perhaps you have some agenda beyond the actual issues we are discussing that is coloring your views?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Evidently, those prophets of which you speak were not particularly useful in predicting events like the Thirty Years War, that being the war started between Catholics and Protestants that killed around one third of the population of Germany.For one example. source Should we discuss the Taiping Rebellion as well? After all, Hong Xiuquan was only saying he spoke for god, just like all your favored heroes on Faux News or CBN.And look, he came in fifth in history. If it only wasn't for WW 2, the An Shi Rebellion, the Mongols, and the Qing conquest of the Manchus, the Christian Crusader of China would have made it to #1. source Must suck to be #5.There are of course 1.3 billion Muslims, maybe you can still have a part in the greatest mass murder in all of history that your ilk so desperately seem to desire, although at your advanced age I would presume it would not actually involve pulling a trigger.Must be as convenient for you as it was for Dick Cheney during the Vietnam War.Edited by anglagard, : clarityEdited by anglagard, : Last sentence

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen