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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
...then why don't us science minded types have all the money, power, and women?
One of those questions that occur to one at home on a Saturday night... --Percy PS - Apologies for the chauvinistic wording - substitute gender of choice in the question.
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frako Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
cause economy is better than science we take you around a lake while you are thirsty and you don't drink
in most fields of science there is no profit thats why you get funded by goverments on those fields when it comes to profit you are funded by companies and they keep all your patents. the only way a scientist can get filthy ritch is to discover something of value on his own or get a nobel prize though a nobel prize and the money that comes whit it does not compare whit the cash companies get from your inventions
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3991 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Because science-minded guys and gals will do the work without the money, power, and women: why pay for it when they're so eager to give it away.
Now, start rewarding scientists who do basic research with money, power, and women, and watch a thousand flowers bloom. ...with some worms, of course--scientific research would attract a different sort. More seriously, I think science-minded lay people tend to have a pretty fair share of the money, political power, and smart women (the best kind). Dost thou prate, rogue? -Cassio Real things always push back.-William James
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Being a scientist is like being a public servant. The job is not well paid but is a vocation to improve the well being (knowledge) of the populace. As you can imagine, this remit does not, routinely involve World Domination.
Sad, but true.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I'm getting more sex than Kent Hovind.
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Nij Member (Idle past 4918 days) Posts: 239 From: New Zealand Joined: |
Don't you mean giving more sex than Hovind?
I'm pretty sure that a skinny old white guy in jail would be getting a lot more than anyone on the outside but a pornstar.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
I'm getting more sex than Kent Hovind. Don't bet on it! (OK, maybe federal prison is more genteel -- an Air Force retiree had once adviced us active-duty airmen that if we should ever decide to break the law, to make it a federal law so that we'd end up in a federal prison. But still, ... .)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Sadly, the worldly gains do not go to those who understand, but rather to those who know how to exploit such knowledge.
Deep down, which would you rather be? Difficult decision, that.
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frako Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
it is not all that bad for scientist my cousin has a doctorets in vetinerian (2x doctor a doctor cause he is a vetinerian, and a doctor cause he has a doctors degree), and he got offered 6000 EUR per month (8,300$ used to be more at that time), but he did not take the job he went to specialize in something in Japan, came back then went on a noter specialization in the US, if he stoppes specializing himself when he comes back he should get about 10 000 EUR (14 000$) per month
al though he might run out of space in his id where you put the name and title dr Matev Arko dr spec. spec. Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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Tram law Member (Idle past 4733 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: |
Because the lawyers step in and get the rights to the product and then proceed to profit.
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Dirk Member (Idle past 4052 days) Posts: 84 Joined: |
quote:If you're lucky enough to do a science that actually results in profitable products; something I doubt about Assyriology and the likes... Edited by Dirk, : No reason given.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 865 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined:
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Dr Adequate writes: I'm getting more sex than Kent Hovind. What evidence do you have for this assertion? The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes. Salman Rushdie This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Percy throws out, in a warm & innocent stylish way:
...then why don't us science minded types have all the money, power, and women? One of those questions that occur to one at home on a Saturday night... --Percy aww... NO KIDDING! why are the ones who are gentle & kind always rudely trampled over by the crude & vicious? will smart and good ever win the day? why are Soundbites so destructive? genetic inheretance? ...well maybe not. - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
You're surely not suggesting that Saint Kent of the Dinosaurs is performing unholy acts of godlessness?
I'm shocked. Shocked and nauseated.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I guess I should put my question in better perspective, and it's helpful that Kent Hovind came up. Here's a guy who was wildly successful at what he did for years and years but whose weird beliefs eventually caught up with him. One could also argue that it was his megalomaniacal belief in his own infallibility that got him in trouble.
In most things creationists are just like us. They pay their taxes, stop at red lights, avoid eating poisons, and don't attempt unaided flight. But why, at least a few times during their life, don't their incredibly odd beliefs get them into serious trouble? I can think of one good example, and that's faith healing. Faith healing has a body count, but even falling victim to a faith healer isn't persuasive. There are cases where people went to faith healers for their treatable cancer until it was too late, but their desperate need to believe their beliefs and decisions are correct keeps them from being persuaded of the truth, even as they die. --Percy
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