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Buzsaw
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Message 106 of 115 (658929)
04-11-2012 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by hooah212002
04-03-2012 8:13 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
hooah writes:

So I ask again: can you provide ANY evidence this jesus or god character exists outside of your own imagination? Your message seems to contain that of instructing other people the "trvth" of these characters and how much they need these characters, so surely you have some evidence of their factual existence.

You've been shown phenomenal fulfilled prophecy evidence verified by observable history which you dogedly reject. You sheeple keep on demanding evidence of Jehovah, the Biblical god, when in fact you really don't want it.

The problem with you who falsely alleg that there is no evidence is that you want to continue in your own sinful ways. You don't want being accountable to a higher power.

Unlike observable Biblical predictions, scientific predictions cannot be physically observed. Scientific predictions, which assume billions of years of relative uniformity, apply abstract relative and quantitative alleged support, dependent on matmatical concoctions. Nobody was there to physically observe them.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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frako
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Message 107 of 115 (658930)
04-11-2012 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
You've been shown phenomenal fulfilled prophecy evidence verified by observable history which you dogedly reject.

As Odin promised he will end all Ice giants he has done so for i have never seen an ice giant in my life and still you doubt the Grate ODIN. what will it take for you to believe in Odin common he made this world and carved the first humans from wood and you still doubt him. Its because you are a coward and dont want to die with bravery.

There are thousands of religions with their own prophecies and their own miracles, their own saviors, demi gods and what not.

Cmmon you probably doubt Zeus and his son Hercules too he we have written records of hercules and his deeds, even his toomb has been found and you still doubt the Grate Zeus, cmmon all the recorded prophecies his son Apollo gave to the oracles at Delphi came true and you still doubt in the supreme god Zeus.


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hooah212002
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Message 108 of 115 (658931)
04-11-2012 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
You've been shown phenomenal fulfilled prophecy evidence

I have? Where? Please, enlighten me oh wise one, soothsayer Buz, bringer of many prophecy evidences.

However, I am afraid your "prophecy" would not be evidence that this god character actually exists.

Unlike observable Biblical predictions, scientific predictions cannot be physically observed.

That's funny as fuck, Buz. I nearly spat my coffee at this one. Hey, Oni, I think you have a challenger.

Nobody was there to physically observe them.

Ohhh right. But we have "physically observed" your god character?? Or any event in the bible?

Keep it up funny guy, my sides are splitting over here.


"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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hooah212002
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Message 109 of 115 (658932)
04-11-2012 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Evidence Of God

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Buzsaw
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Message 110 of 115 (658933)
04-11-2012 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by frako
04-11-2012 7:57 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
frako writes:

There are thousands of religions with their own prophecies.......

Do the forum guidline thing, Frako. Cite those alleged prophecies and evidence of their fulfillments.

A true prophet is known only by observable evidence of fulfillment.

Biblical OT prophets were under a death warrent under the Levitical law for falsely prophesying.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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crashfrog
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Message 111 of 115 (658940)
04-11-2012 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 9:04 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
Biblical OT prophets were under a death warrant under the Levitical law for falsely prophesying.

How would they be punished in 200 BC for prophecies whose veracity could not be judged until 2000 AD?

The things you say about prophecy have never made any sense, Buz. Back in 2002 or so I once asked you to address that even the ancient Greeks knew that prophecy was a mug's game, as long as you made your prophecies so vague that events could be shoehorned into them after they transpired, had the ability (as Biblical prophecies do) to be redacted after the events by a sympathetic priesthood with a personal interest in making sure the "prophecy" appeared to be accurate, or simply enjoyed the support, years later, of a motivated band of zealots determined to force the prophecies to come true.

That point was never addressed by you; your tacit admission that your "prophecy evidence" is substanceless. Yet here you are, ten years later, flogging your "prophecy evidence" as though you never completely failed to defend it when it counted.

That's why we say you have no evidence, Buz.


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jar
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Message 112 of 115 (658943)
04-11-2012 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
Since you claim "You've been shown phenomenal fulfilled prophecy evidence verified by observable history " I assume you can provide links to that evidence?

Buz writes:

The problem with you who falsely alleg that there is no evidence is that you want to continue in your own sinful ways. You don't want being accountable to a higher power.

Why do you continue to repeat falsehoods Buz? Many of us asking for evidence are theists, Christians even, and so accountable to a higher power.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 113 of 115 (658946)
04-11-2012 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Taq
04-04-2012 5:54 PM


Re: The value of human life - Atheist version
No, not murder him. I didn't mean to imply that.

It is implied by the death penalty.

I don't remember talking about the death penalty...


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frako
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Message 114 of 115 (658983)
04-11-2012 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 9:04 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
Cite those alleged prophecies and evidence of their fulfillments.

Croesus asked the oracle if he will defeat the persians if he marched on them.

The oracle answered "Croesus will destroy a great empire."

the idiot just forgot to ask what empire because the attack led to the destruction of his own.

Prophecy given to Leonidas before the battle of Thermopylae

"Hear your fate, O dwellers in Sparta of the wide spaces;
Either your famed, great town must be sacked by Perseus' sons,
Or, if that be not, the whole land of Lacedaemon
Shall mourn in the death of a king of the house of Heracles,
For not the strength if lions or of bulls shall hold him,
Strength againsh strength; for he has the power of Zeus,
And will not be checked till one of these two he has consumed."

so he marched with some 14000 men to Thermopylae where he faced some 200 000 - 300 000 Persians for 3 days they faught the spartan king died but the losses the persians faced had a tremendous impact on the amrys moral, Who would not cower in fear when 20000 men had to die to kill 2000 greeks (the rest fled by order of the king). Soon had to retreat back to Persia leaving 80 000 men what was left behind to get slaughtered.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

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ringo
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Message 115 of 115 (659310)
04-14-2012 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
04-11-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Evidence Of God
Buzsaw writes:

You've been shown phenomenal fulfilled prophecy evidence verified by observable history which you dogedly reject.


If other people don't see it, then by definition, it isn't evidence.
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