Human Enhancement Ethics

you mean like a twin? i don't get what the big deal is about this whole thing. twins have identical genetic information and none of them lack a soul or recognition of personhood (except those olsens, and they're not identical anyways). i was under the understanding that they were intending to try to grow organs without growing whole "people" with or without nervous systems. i think he's referring to the idea that anything short of massive numbers of natural babies from people who won't even look at birth control pills and permanent life support for brain dead people is evil and does not glorify god. having babies with fatal diseases or significant, life-threatening defects is irresponsible. having babies you can't feed or care for is irresponsible. preventing research that could save lives --when the research is done with consideration to ethics and *some* idea of the sanctity of life-- is irresponsible. having multiple babies in a starving and overstretched world is irresponsible....but then so may be allowing science to save lives that nature would destroy.need i mention that i *love* when fundamentalists reference malthus in the negative. it makes me giggle.

That's the "other" way in which they are not unique from anything already existing, yeah... I guess that's how it will start out. But wouldn't this evolve into a situation where different organs are being combined in one single biological "incubator-body"? If only for efficiency? I would also think that eventually this will all happen preventively because there could be situations in which replacement of an organ is very urgent, and there wouldn't be time to start "growing" an individual organ from 0. That's another way to put it...

it might. and i don't have any issues with it. organs do not make a person.

What on Earth are you talking about? Not enough time to grow multiple organs? Why not grow them all at the same time but seperately?You are thinking up whatif scenarios that are rediculously naive.Why on Earth are you continuing to block progress when all the evidence suggest that growing organs will save a lot of people from a lifetime of pain and suffering? If you want to pursue the route of miracles, by all means keep praying. Why expect the rest of us to wait for god to intervene?

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Calm down, I'm not OPPOSING it, lol... Read the posts more carefully. I have no problem with neither growing individual organs separately, or growing a body without brain with several organs and tissues in it together. This was just a little side-issue between me and brennakimi

A body grown from a somatic clone will have the same genetic material in each organ.Presumably, the "efficiency" of growing a number of organs in an "incubator body" would be to provide organs for several different recipients.However, each recipient has his own genetic "signature" and the "incubator body" with its host of organs has only one genetic "signature" ... that of the somatically cloned embryo.What you are suggesting would require a different somatic clone for each organ somehow implanted in an "incubator body".As Taz pointed out, that's ridiculous.It's much simpler just to grow individual organs.

Well, in that case then I'll just use a page from the creationist guide to winning debates.I've been proven to be right over and over and over. You've been proven to be wrong over and over and over.*runs away*

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Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!