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coffee_addict Member Posts: 3636 From: Chicago Joined: |
Off the top of my head, I can't think of any animal that uses the wheel and axle for locomotive purposes. How come evolution never came up with the wheel and axle?
If you say the word "gullible" slowly, it sounds like oranges. Go ahead and try it.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Thread copied here from the How come evolution never developed the wheel? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8044 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Two reasons
1. Not all possible variants will necessarily evolve - there aren't any tripods either as far as I know. 2. The wheel and axle is can't be innervated or supplied with blood because the 'cable' would twist around the axle. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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AnswersInGenitals Member Posts: 588 Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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It did.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 150 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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and the gas bags to power them. Enjoy by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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AnswersInGenitals Member Posts: 588 Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Actually, they're powered by ATP's.
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coffee_addict Member Posts: 3636 From: Chicago Joined: |
Are you talking about the flagella? If so, that's microscopic. I'm talking about animals we can pet and cuddle with.
If you say the word "gullible" slowly, it sounds like oranges. Go ahead and try it.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8044 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
There aren't any. https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/...heels_in_the_natural_world The nearest I know about would be the ratchet in a grasshoppers leg
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33334091 Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16112 Joined:
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Well, how would it work? You'd have to have a bit of the animal that would be separate, detached from the other bits. But then how would that bit get nutrients and oxygen?
Also what good would it be? Most terrain is unsuitable for wheels. That's why we build roads. Also, what would it evolve from? If you're talking about "animals we can pet and cuddle with", that would be vertebrates, right? Well, where are the potential precursors to a wheel in vertebrate anatomy? How would they replace legs?
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frako Member Posts: 2931 From: slovenija Joined:
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Because its a bad idea, you need roads and level sturdy terrain for wheels to fully deliver their potential. You would need heavy regeneration abilities on your wheels, because of tare out doing bends, cars have heavy duty rubber wheels, reinforced whit steel wire and you still need to switch them out, how well do you think skin or bone would fair. Then there is the whole problem of how do you keep the wheeles supplied with blood, any vains would just tare out after one spin.....
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edge Member (Idle past 451 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
Reminds me of Papua New Guinea even in recent history. The terrain is so steep and mountainous that the wheel was never widely adopted. All communication and travel was based on narrow footpaths so there was very little trade between villages to the extent that each village developed it's own language.
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AnswersInGenitals Member Posts: 588 Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Dictyostelium discoideum (AKA slime mold). Cute and cuddly is in the eye of the beholder. Dictyostelium discoideum can aggregate and move around like a tank tread. Birds, Bats, flying insects don't have propellers, but when is the last time you saw an airplane alight on a tree twig or electric wire? Saurischian dinosaurs have an axle-in-casing hip joint structure - the legs can swing front-to-back but not side-to-side or twist like our ball-in-socket hip joints. You couldn't outrun a T-Rex but you could outmaneuver him/her/it.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 5496 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Why should it? Are you expecting evolution to devise every conceivable answer to every conceivable issue? Good enough is good enough for evolution. Compared to wheel-and-axle solutions a pair of limbs (or many multiple pairs) were, apparently, quite sufficient a body plan that no other structure proved to be as advantageous for those clades of organisms. So the answer may be as simple as saying a wheel-and-axle never developed because a number of more than adequate solutions had already been put into use. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 150 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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There are axles and wheels in junkyards all over -- waste product of human existence. They didn't appear by spontaneous creation. We count the beginning of life by the waste product of stromatolites .... Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : food for thought by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 5496 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
So, humans made wheel/axle, humans are a product of evolution, therefore evolution made wheel/axle.
Sure. Not quite what the discussion was about but ok. Why not. Edited by AZPaul3, : with a pinch of salt.
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