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daaaaaBEAR Inactive Member |
Yes, ever. If a man just picked up your arm and just kinda fit it where it belong with severed bone, veins, skin and all.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Ever?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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caligola2 Inactive Member |
If i will watch a 'miracle' i would probably go to see a psychiatrist in order to disqualify the possibility that i have schizophrenia..
if this option has been ruled out, and there is no natural explantion for what i saw, and all the other witnesses don't have a psychotic condition.. i would understand that there is a supernatural entity.. This message has been edited by caligola2, 02-16-2005 04:22 AM
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daaaaaBEAR Inactive Member |
I'm getting sick of these one-word responses jar, it doesn't help at all. If you think that miracles can't be explained because we only know so much, then what makes you so sure that we know in say 500 years would explain a miraculous incident.
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daaaaaBEAR Inactive Member |
if this option has been ruled out, and there is no natural explantion for what i saw, and all the other witnesses don't have a psychotic condition.. That's key, that others in the same group witnessing the same thing are all mentally stable. It would be easy to be skeptical and discredit one person's testimony but if there's several who claim they saw the same thing then it leads to greater evidence that it actually happened. Unless one would consider everybody psychotic....
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AdminSylas Inactive Member |
The complaint about one word responses is legitimate, jar, especially given that you asked once and were answered unambiguously. Doing it again is not in the spirit of forum guidelines. Engage, or don't bother.
Thanks -- AdminSylas
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm getting sick of these one-word responses jar, it doesn't help at all. If you think that miracles can't be explained because we only know so much, then what makes you so sure that we know in say 500 years would explain a miraculous incident. Well, I have brought the dead back to life. I have personally given the breath of life to dead folk and had them rise and walk again. Five hundred years ago those would have been seen as miraculous. ps: I have also had a child that had stopped breathing and heart had stopped back to the point the heart was beating and was forced to stop by his good Christian Parents and their 'Minister' only see see the kid die as they prayed for God's Wioll to be Done. I will never forgive Fundamentalists for that murder. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Well, I have brought the dead back to life. I have personally given the breath of life to dead folk and had them rise and walk again. Five hundred years ago those would have been seen as miraculous.
Awesome! Were they rotting in a hot tomb for 3 days also?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Well anything that cannot be currently explained by science gets the label random, or it gets put on a shelf until an explanation can be made.
This leads us to an incomplete picture of how everything really works. Also since no theory can ever really be proven, we can just keep relying on overwelming evidence that can be easily explain so that our feble minds can coop with it. Yes this is the same logic they will use to explain away God. We have answers, but not all of them, but we will, just you wait and see. "I cannot believe in God, I have no choice"
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
You're more mature than that, Riverrat. That's just ugly.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nope. I was on the scene quicker than that.
Nor was it a miracle. However we regularly do things today that would have been seen as miraculous 500 years ago. To say that there are things which will never, ever be explained is simply silly. We don't know what will not only be possible but commonplace in the future except to say that it would seem miraculous to primitive people like you and me. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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daaaaaBEAR Inactive Member |
To say that there are things which will never, ever be explained is simply silly. We don't know what will not only be possible but commonplace in the future except to say that it would seem miraculous to primitive people like you and me. That's pretty ignorant jar since you can't explain how the big bang got it's energy, or how I can feel the presence of God in my life. I think your making a huge mistake by assuming that our advanced technology in the future will explain miracles. If Marco Polo time warped to February 15, 2005 he would think cars and computers and cellphones would be miraculous but that's way different than seeing a severed hand crawl across the table (Adams Family). Unexplainable miracles are simply unexplainable whether you lived 2005 B.C. or 2005 A.D.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I agree, but you missed my point.
I also agree about the future, and can picture how they will look back at us and say, how barbaric those people were, and completely laugh at us. But the bible will still be there.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think your making a huge mistake by assuming that our advanced technology in the future will explain miracles. What mistake?
If Marco Polo time warped to February 15, 2005 he would think cars and computers and cellphones would be miraculous but that's way different than seeing a severed hand crawl across the table (Adams Family). How is it different?
Unexplainable miracles are simply unexplainable whether you lived 2005 B.C. or 2005 A.D. And once they are explained they are??? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I'm 39 but still a kid inside, I can't help it sometimes.
Come on it wasn't funny at all? We are too serious sometimes, and we need a laugh once and awhile. But I appreciate your encouragement to not do that stuff.
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