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New Cat's Eye
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Message 16 of 19 (487261)
10-29-2008 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by TruthSeeker01
10-29-2008 12:36 AM


Genesis 4:9,10,11
9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
This shows that GOD already knew what happened to abel,but still asked cain....
Those passages don't necessarily suggest omnipresence because it just as well could be suggesting omniscience.
Or, it could just be describing an ancient anthropomorphic god that has magic powers like hearing blood cry from the ground but is not omnipresent nor omniscient.

Hint....
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Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence.
Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
-System of a Down, "Science"
He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
-Avenged Sevenfold, "Bat Country"

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TruthSeeker01
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Message 17 of 19 (487281)
10-29-2008 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by New Cat's Eye
10-29-2008 9:26 AM


in fact i meant omniscient itself,anyway if GOD has the capability to be omnipresent,being omniscient,omnibenevolant,omnipotence,omni-waterver-f**K shuldnt be a prob or complicated...
thnx for the quotes hint man...was looking for the quote button me,lol..and wondering how u guys did it...
btw SOAD & avenged sevenfold rocks !!!!!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 18 of 19 (487287)
10-29-2008 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by TruthSeeker01
10-29-2008 1:57 PM


in fact i meant omniscient itself
Wierd... you directly responded to a quote of someone asking where it says he is omnipresent.
anyway if GOD has the capability to be omnipresent,being omniscient,omnibenevolant,omnipotence,omni-waterver-f**K shuldnt be a prob or complicated...
Not necessarily.
A god could simply find himself to be omnipresent with no control over it whatsoever or with little to no knowledge.
Further, god could be the universe, itself, and then god would be omnipresent by way of being the whole universe without necessarily having unlimited power or even any knowledge at all.

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Message 19 of 19 (487295)
10-29-2008 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by TruthSeeker01
10-29-2008 12:36 AM


Re: Not to mention omnibenevolence...
Hi Truthseeker01,
The passages you quote have nothing to do with omnipresence. You seem to be confusing omnipresence (the ability to exist everywhere at once) with omniscience (the ability to know everything).
Besides, your passages don't even show omniscience. All they show is that Cain tried to trick God and failed. They show that God knew one thing, that Abel had been killed. They do not state explicitly or even implicitly that God knows everything.
I asked for passages that explicitly state that god is omnipresent. This is a long way short of that.
Mutate and Survive.
Edited by Granny Magda, : Typo.

"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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