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Brad McFall
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Message 16 of 16 (42172)
06-05-2003 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Peter
05-28-2003 6:49 AM


Ok, the day lily need not be a "squishy" species just becuase Linneaus goofed perhaps a bit in its naming binomially etc but really it may be that not a large amount of time but only a time differential is necessary for us to understand perhaps how we merged the two into one when one of Mendel's peas would have also found the same kind of time to change in. There seems likely to be some confusion as to time but not to space in the matter of cell cycle arrest vs developmental arrest but I can not be certain this is the reason for the mistake and also the arrest of me as well...but more later.
I am thinking that the carving of geographic distributions (by whatever theoretical commitmment to founders, allopatry, details of Wirghts's balance, other?...)in a panbiogeographic continuum may involve translation in space and form-making largely or significantly on the baisis of recylcling around entropy correlations sustained during adaptive momements in the history of a kind of taxogeny by non-defaluted so-called "programmed" cell-death (apopotosis"" if one is indiscrimate with respect to the difference molecularly between plants and animals etc)and that there may NOT be "self-destructive" nature to the assocation with mitochondria after all this time is bounded to the smallest difference possible no matter how many years it takes to get this research program on the table.. Which meant to that cells may need something in addtion to vitamins (dielectrics) as part of Newton's idea of nutrition and the gentle heat and motion of fermentation such that by signal transduction to recycle already in a taxogenic sense expressed proteins that may contribute to taxa specific adaptions by gene frequency change by provision of an" architutre" to naviagate negentive entropy translations across space through the REcompositions of the TIMED (need not necessarily a prirori be the subtration of mills from bills of revolutions to start to discuss this from an evo-devo stronghold as public even if disagreeing in private... for the education of students' sake)expression by the central dogma of molecularbiology such that there is not necessarily feedBACK to the genes as is thought in neophenogenesis but rather negotiation by the teleomatic bound of the gene program that expressed the proteins that built the extension that life "dies" to...
This is a significantly different view on taxogeny than is standard in textbooks and yet I would like to know if there may emerge any data to counter indicate the logic of its experimental philosophy position on the relation of sythesis and anaylsis for it need not be anything but organic as well. In which case the formation of apototic bodies may be the scaffold the ORBIT moves its trajectory around in order to keep the fluid parts of organisms still in motion across generations despite the correlations that MAY by negegative entropy solidify to external point of attachment in the environment to if not merely suspended in the gravitional gradient.
The "slowness" in the process would be irrespective of the taxonmic subjectivey of the classifed biology but rather due to the need to try differnt PATTERNS of cell death ontogenically within the CONSTRAINT of gene flow foundations which may incidently be cause of the time difference! Why I had to be drugged, arrested, tried and rejected before I was allowed to contribute this thougt to society is beyond me. I explained the slow poke did not poke to peek to do it.
This is cearly possible but I do note that Peter started from a time that this explanation may extend on expansion INTO but from which it does not start. I guess I just represent a more conservative biology than we have in the reign of organicism to which this is also not. You COULD observe the mill years senario EASIER if there is also a non-organic component to death in life as I indicated but then again it is easier to THink the ink when it comes only to organics and THIS not the question Peter asked may explain why in the light of good reductionist ideas organisms still holds Chomsky's "elite" preventable propaganda against the us "more" simple folk the halls of the likes of MCZ.

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