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Topic: Email notification of reply
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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: 05-09-2004
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Message 16 of 36 (264844)
12-01-2005 5:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 15 by Admin
11-30-2005 8:18 PM
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Re: volunteering to help
Thank you. Email notification makes it so much easier to keep track of discussions.
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Admin
Director Posts: 13044 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 17 of 36 (265430)
12-04-2005 11:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 12 by nwr
11-24-2005 12:18 AM
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Re: volunteering to help
I'm continuing to investigate, but I don't think the approach you outline will work. I think it will cause email for all websites hosted on the server to use EvC Forum's IP address. There are three other websites there right now, two of them using email. AbE: Each site has its own /etc/mail directory in its own virtual area. And root has access to m4. I made the change, ran it through "m4 sendmail.mc >sendmail.cf" (hope that's right), then restarted the mail server (the control panel has a button for this). But I don't know how to check if it's working. This message has been edited by Admin, 12-04-2005 12:16 PM
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 18 of 36 (265432)
12-04-2005 11:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 17 by Admin
12-04-2005 11:36 AM
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Re: volunteering to help
I think it will cause email for all websites hosted on the server to use EvC Forum's IP address.
Yes, it will have that effect. The only way around that will involve a little more complexity, and separate sendmail configurations for each site. I don't know how easy that is, because I don't know the details of how the different websites are separated. But I'll work on some ideas for you to consider.
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Admin
Director Posts: 13044 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 19 of 36 (265441)
12-04-2005 12:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 18 by nwr
12-04-2005 11:54 AM
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Re: volunteering to help
Oops, you're too fast. Read my edit to previous email. I should explain about not knowing how to test this. The Internet headers in email I've received from the site in hte past do not include the previously incorrect 72.4.161.195 address, and so I can't tell if new email that I receive now has correct headers. This message has been edited by Admin, 12-04-2005 12:21 PM
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 20 of 36 (265443)
12-04-2005 12:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 19 by Admin
12-04-2005 12:17 PM
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Re: volunteering to help
Mail still shows as coming from 72.4.161.195 and dedicated..
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 21 of 36 (265447)
12-04-2005 12:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 17 by Admin
12-04-2005 11:36 AM
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Re: volunteering to help
Each site has its own /etc/mail directory in its own virtual area.
Okay, that gives me a hint on another solution. I will outline the strategy. The way sendmail currently works, mail that originates locally (as in a web application) is first processed using "submit.cf". This causes the message to be sent to the main site sendmail daemon (fia a connectiong to port 25), which then sends it on. It should be possible to use an alternative "submit.cf". Under the alternative, the mail to external sites would be sent immediately, and using the desired local IP. Since "/etc/mail" is virtual, this could be different for each virtual host. Is "/var/spool/clientmqueue" also different for each virtual host? Does each virtual host somehow have its own SMTP daemon, or is there the one daemon for all?
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Admin
Director Posts: 13044 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 22 of 36 (265455)
12-04-2005 1:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 21 by nwr
12-04-2005 12:56 PM
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Re: volunteering to help
Each site has its own /var/spool (which is actually relative to the site's directory and not really at root level), and the root level has its own /var/spool. AbE: These are the lines from a "ps -ef" that mention sendmail. Are they the right ones?
root 21962 1 0 12:01 ? 00:00:00 sendmail: sm-acceptingconnections: accepting connections
smmsp 21974 1 0 12:01 ? 00:00:00 sendmail: sm-client: Queue runner@01:00:00 for /var/spool/cli This message has been edited by Admin, 12-04-2005 01:44 PM
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 23 of 36 (265457)
12-04-2005 1:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 22 by Admin
12-04-2005 1:39 PM
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Re: volunteering to help
Thanks. I'll take a few days testing a suitable configuration.
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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: 05-09-2004
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Message 24 of 36 (267841)
12-11-2005 5:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 23 by nwr
12-04-2005 1:44 PM
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Re: volunteering to help
no luck?
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purpledawn
Member (Idle past 3487 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: 04-25-2004
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Message 25 of 36 (271027)
12-20-2005 7:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by nwr
12-04-2005 1:44 PM
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Email Notification Stopped
Hey nwr, For the past week my email notifications from those responding to my posts has stopped. Has something changed? Thanks
There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. -Edith Wharton
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Re: Email Notification Stopped
I don't know of any change. Maybe Percy can comment. There is also a possibility that your ISP has changed something, and is now blocking this mail. I will be spending some time on the email issue today (and tomorrow if I don't finish today). In the meantime, I have turned my own email notifications on so that I can at least see if it is working for me.
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Admin
Director Posts: 13044 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 27 of 36 (271071)
12-20-2005 10:38 AM
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Reply to: Message 26 by nwr
12-20-2005 9:36 AM
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Re: Email Notification Stopped
Starting maybe a week ago, the admin mailbox is receiving about 50 messages per day with titles like, "Returned mail: see transcript for details", e.g. (not too many of these):
The original message was received at Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:51:47 -0500
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
----- Transcript of session follows -----
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Deferred: Bad file descriptor Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue And "Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours", e.g. (many of these):
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** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY **
** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE **
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The original message was received at Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:01:03 -0500
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
----- Transcript of session follows -----
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Deferred: Bad file descriptor
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old And some like this:
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** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY **
** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE **
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The original message was received at Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:44:42 -0500
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
----- Transcript of session follows ----- ...
while talking to mx2.optonline.net.:
>>> MAIL From: SIZE=1249
<<< 450 4.2.1 Your host 72.4.161.195 has no DNS record.
If you are using a firewall please configure DNS and try again
authoritative host not found ...
while talking to mx1.optonline.net.:
>>> MAIL From: SIZE=1249
<<< 450 4.2.1 Your host 72.4.161.195 has no DNS record.
If you are using a firewall please configure DNS and try again
authoritative host not found ...
Deferred: 450 4.2.1 Your host 72.4.161.195 has no DNS record.
If you are using a firewall please configure DNS and try again
authoritative host not found
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old If there is other information that would be helpful just let me know and I'll try to provide it.
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purpledawn
Member (Idle past 3487 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: 04-25-2004
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Message 28 of 36 (271107)
12-20-2005 12:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by Admin
12-20-2005 10:38 AM
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Re: Email Notification Stopped
Well I'm on AOL, so some of those may have been mine. Hopefully it will work itself out. Thanks for checking. 
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 29 of 36 (271151)
12-20-2005 3:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by Admin
12-20-2005 10:38 AM
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Re: Email Notification Stopped
Try 2 for a solution to these problems. Look in directory "sendmail" under the home directory for user adminnwr. The files "submit.mc.orig" and "submit.cf.orig" are from the currently installed submit.* files in "/etc/mail". The files "submit.mc" and "submit.cf" are the suggested new versions. The file "README.submit" describes what has been changed. To test, simply install the modified "submit.cf" in "/etc/mail". It is not necessary to restart anything. I did send a couple of test messages, which seem to work correctly. I don't have the privileges for a full test. The one drawback is that some messages might build up in "/var/spool/clientmqueue", if the initial attempt to send does not succeed. The best way to handle this is to run a periodic cron job in the correct virtual host context. An alternative would be to just send these to the main sendmail daemon, in which case the resend attempts won't use the correct local IP address. We can discuss that later. My suggestion: Install the replacement "submit.cf" then see how it works out. We can look into other problems at a later time.
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Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 30 of 36 (271234)
12-20-2005 11:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by Admin
12-20-2005 10:38 AM
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Re: Email Notification Stopped
That email address is mine and I haven't been receiving notifications for about a week now too.
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