The people behind a great post...

It has to. Otherwise you couldn't wonder about it. You have to have a wonderer to be able to wonder.That I can be absolutely certain of : I exist.I assume you do--not certain.

---

"A man with a good car doesn't have to be justified"---Flannery O'Connor

I think that's probably the disadvantage of being a pure debater. You seem to rebutt claims rather than becoming a textbook. IMHO, your posts are good overall rather than specific posts, because you don't tend to ostentatiously divulge information. But I think that makes you more honest, rather than a braggart, for if you tried, I'm sure you could out-Brad some of us.To topiceers; I infact nominated Riverrat(a believer) for original thinking a month or so back, but then realised there was two POTM threads, so I infact accidentally nominated him for a humour-POTM.I agree with message 1, in that, obviously people who get votes are going to be favourable to the main nominators. It's probably group conformity, in that I see that if a popular poster is nominated, others perhaps join in in seconding their nomination, so to speak.But another factor is numbers, as there seems to be more naturalist evos which naturally means that it would follow, to get more naturalist nominees. It's like a few women in a room full of men. It might seem the women aren't nominated but it could be innocent in that they are simply small in number.

I wonder why the creos tend not to nominate other creos.

---

"A man with a good car doesn't have to be justified"---Flannery O'Connor

in message 15 Faith scored 6 post nominations.Yes, I included secondary nominations. As far as I know, this is mainly for writing despite her being an infamous creo at this site.Message 15 has 8 moths of POTM information for 2005.BTW, I should have voiced that last years winner was Holmes.

I rarely read the POTM threads. I don't have much of a view point on it. Guess it doesn't relate to what I think about.I never did get the OP straight as to whether it was the posts nominated for POTM or the post that the POTM nominees were replying to. Nor did I get a sense of how well defined the data set was, what the criteria was and if so what the hypotheses was that the statistical method was going to establish. hmmm, I guess I just didn't find anything that I relate to strongly.I browsed something here that is OT I assume and that did interest me. So I guess I better leave off before I get any more OT.lfen

I think you didn't notice this one at the time, and I didn't want to draw lots of attention to it, but now that you mention it, I haven't seen many POTM's for you. So, just to prove that occasionally you do get them, here you'll find one that was well earned.Now, here's to hoping that you'll notice this pointer itself.

---

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Did you see where you were nominated?

---

"A man with a good car doesn't have to be justified"---Flannery O'Connor

Does a computer wonder or does it do what it is programmed to do. If you were a very sophisticated aliens kids playstation game then you would be a programme . And a programme doesn't wonder. It does only what it is programmed to do.The best you can say is that you exist or that you are a programme programmed to 'think' it 'exists'. If the former then you know you exist due to internal evidence = circular reasoning for 'proving' you exist. If the later then some external source for 'you' = dead end mystery. As I was saying beforeI am certain that I exist and I am equally certain that God exists for my knowing both things has precisely the same quality. No him no me. All the world of science and philosophy cannot change something that I know to be the case. But I could be an alien kids programme and I am 'thinking' what I am programmed to think

Whilst all will have their own reasons for being here for this Christian the reason is by and large to use the medium to share the gospel of Jesus Christ. Although I lose the plot at times, this is a job of work. Should there be any reward for it (for sometimes I do doubt my motivations) then it will be there.I wouldn't mind nominating a non-Christian but wouldn't typically do the same for a Christian. For the same reasons perhaps that they wouldn't nominate me

You can leave me on the list. As I said, for the purpose of this thread I belong in your group, and am happy to be aligned with good thinking folks like you. Though some like our Faith debates more than I on faith, I don't see where anyone debates on faith alone, so why should we advertize to our counterparts that we do faith alone, so as to give them that leverage over us? They love it when we do faith alone without the evidence to support our position. The more of that we do, the more but kicking we get so as to inspire these ptoms the but kickers receive.Having said the above, please don't construe those remarks to mean we shouldn't debate some faith on different matters. Paul a man of great faith said to the Thessalonians, "Prove all things." So he certainly was no faith alone-er.Other than that, Iano, don't let me discourage you on this interesting subject. You're doing good. Keep up the good work.

---

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 Z Y BUZ SAW

What is the use of this practise? Your views on predestination would seem to rule out the need and use. It smacks of hubris to preach "the good news" to people who have no choice to avail themselves of it.

Its covered here AAhttp://EvC Forum: Salvation by faith and works : intellectually ridiculous? -->EvC Forum: Salvation by faith and works : intellectually ridiculous?

Oh dear. And I've just gone an done one the predestination vs free will paradox. Whilst I am content to take of my sandals on such holy ground I don't expect anything other than to get a thrashing for it.INCOMING!!http://EvC Forum: Salvation by faith and works : intellectually ridiculous? -->EvC Forum: Salvation by faith and works : intellectually ridiculous?The gospel is the power of God unto salvation and its that which I feel compelled to do. I can only trust what he says a turn the other (fairly reddened at this stage) cheek!Thanks for the encouragement Buzz (and for not have to re-scribble the calculations on the back of my cigarette packet were you to remove yourself from the list)

1. Percentage of creos very small.
2. A small percentage of members do potms and this includes creos.

---

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 Z Y BUZ SAW

Going to have a look to see it there is reason to do an 2nd update on reasons for the situation in the OP Buzz if you'd like to have a succint popHave you got a view (whether roughly contained withing the current rough reasons given so far in the OP or a new one)Food for thought (and my own thoughts range a bit), whilst I know that faith aloners account for a minority there are many views held at EvC who would be in a minority but for some reason or other it is the FA's who attract off the scale reponse looking responseHave you an idea as to the reason for such specific focus?