That's stupid.
Be that is it may, many moderates consider themselves so.
Again, the notion that you can point to one fake news show on the comedy channel and say "there; that's your liberal media just like conservatives have"
But I didn't claim any of that.
This started because I said many in the field (of broadcasting) consider The Daily Show a news show. And you replied with a dismissive,
"No one in the field thinks that."
I don't think the Daily Show is a news channel, but many in broadcasting do. And the Indiana Univ. experiment showed just why many think that.
So my point was made, many in broadcasting DO consider Stewart's show news.
Yes. It's not true that he's a libertarian or a conservative, regardless of what he says.
I believe the correct response to your arrogance is, he
is a Libertarian/Socialist and a conservative as he claims to be, regardless of what
you say.
What makes your statement anymore substantial than his? The thing for us to do is perhaps debate
why he consdiers himself so, and
maybe come to an understanding. But saying, "I'm right, he's wrong" doesn't do shit.
Noam Chomsky is a liberal. He's like the nation's most infamous liberal, for Christ's sake.
Wait, are you under the impression that Noam means a conservative as in Pro-Choice (liberal) -vs- Pro-Life (conservative)...? Is that how you distinguish the two?
You do realize that both terms, conservative and liberal, existed long before arguments about abortion, same-sex marriage and all the other distracting hot-button issues that tend to split this country down the middle into faux-conservative/liberal positions did, right?
You do realize that when Chomsky says conservative he is NOT refering to the contemporary use of the terms, right?
How about you concede so we can move past it? Your points are less supported than mine, after all.
Well, lets see where we got side-tracked and if you're right I'll gladly concede...
Message 54quote:
Nobody "in the field" really considers the Daily Show a news source
Well, as I've pointed out, and supported what I said with evidence, many in the field do. See
Message 55
Oni writes:
Noam Chomsky, an admitted (classical) Liberitarian also
considers himself a conservative. But certainly not like the conservatives of today. In fact, many today would consider him a liberal, which he most certainly is not.
CF writes:
Um, no. None of this is true.
But in fact, all of that is true. Unless you'd like to twist the words around, I specifically said that HE considers himself to be a Libertarian and conservative. And I only gave the Chomsky example because we were discussing the different past political positions and terms, and I was trying to show how some people use the terms different.
Now, we can get on with discussing what a liberal is, a conservaitves is by today's standards and the difference with what it used to be. We can discuss
why Chomsky believe he is a conservative, etc. We can do all that fun stuff. But when I try to make a point and you jump on it, like you did in the above examples, so dismissively, then, when I provide the evidence for you, shift the argument to something else without showing
some humility, then it is not worth while to continue. It will be never ending, and I already found a dude in this site to do that with and don't want more of that.
- Oni