The I in ID

I like to cut to the chase... this topics sounds alot like the Complexity = Creation topic... In other words, I am pretty much going to ramble now...My assessment is that Since the universe is absolutely dependent upon everything else why not???SJ Gould refers likens history to evolution, "Second, this restricted phenomenon arises as an incidental consequence [...] of causes that include no mechanism for progress or increasing complexity in their main actions." In other words sometimes things happen and sometimes they don't... Meaning, in his opinion, history like evolution, should not be discounted from moving foward adaptively, just because change doesn't happen immediately or significantly... eventually incidental consequence will eventually win out and rule the day...Apparently scientists must always become philosphers too... Why not!!!For me a having a creator - is very logical - See evolutionists cannot understand that it could just be a prime mover, period!! Because something had to create the prime mover... Yes questions, must begot questions...But we are just the right distance from the sun, and life is to fragile to have it any other way - is this by chance - come on Ev's - use some reason - just a little...
But since you cannot see feel or touch this prime mover - We got to have a better explanation then - well - a creator...Even that reasoning is flawed - We hate Paley because his simple analogy was incredibley simple, yet correct...Mathematically it seems very impossible for evolution to happen - LET'S DISCUSS THAT!!! And our distance away from the sun, by chance or not!!!To paraphrase Mrs. Foster "what if just one of planets out of a million have life and what if, another one out of a million have life and so on..."Sounds pretty lame to me... Reason rules the day... Yet, People will do anything not to believe in God... Because if there is a Creator - then - gasp! I could be accountable for my life...Done rambling...

And where do you suppose those laws of accountability came from... hmmmm.... what principal are they founded upon, when from who and why???Geez I get nailed for rambling....okay I will stick to the original post here... Which I thought was lacking just a little in it's postulate re: ID...

I'll pretened that I am flying in the Death-Star trench - Thus, I will try to stay on target...1. Mt. Rushmore comparison - really don't care - Yet this is the only part of his topic post that makes sense - I agree - ID compared to Mt. Rushmore is kinda so so...2. My parameters are going to be the same and different... The same meaning we all live on earth - subject to the same laws... Creation part - A creator...3. Creating the parameters of life - yes loggically takes ID to do so... i.e. right distance away from sun... Just a fact... my point all along - the parameters - some things do evolve, but only to a point...a) comparisons - should be more logical not abstract - I am talking about the sun and it's proximity to the earth... So when you post back - do not talk about puddles or a bunch of leaves piled high by apes/gorillas - termites and ants - that is a basic form of structure - to support that system/enviornment, but nothing over millions of years has moved beyond that... randomness can produce many things, but nothing compared to creation of life, and the parameters that preceded it to come into existence...4. Then it is pure subjectivity when we define intelligence, geez...
street smarts, fashion smarts, God should have given us wings, If he were intelligent - then why don't all ants have wings - It's the way they were made/ and yes evolved per se... All in all - we need things as we go, that's all - are adapting yes - but never to a higher state of being/physologically and ontologically speaking... Did God make or arrange the matter so ants, and humans could exists, absolutely... How this was done, I don't know???Insects are intelligent - but just for insects and there systems - there is no rocket science in that... they do communicate in complex ways - but that's what they need to do... anyway5. As he has shown regarding design and intelligence that the two should not equal one another = He has shown nothing, but abract concepts, and vague ones at that - Design is when - The earth orbits the sun, what caused this to happen for us to happen... Chance and our consciences to realize we just one of those lucky planets - Hard for any one to believe - our reason - causes us to look for something else beyond just cosmology - theology - yes maybe - science and the two I believe are intransically bonded together - and reveal the watchmaker...Go ahead scold me some more...