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Secularly Verifiable Evidence for Biblical Inerrancy

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10-23-2004 5:47 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by fnord
10-23-2004 5:01 AM

Re: The Science of the Bible
Just like we can apprehend at least some of the properties of a hypersphere.
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yeah, but after that my head starts to hurt.
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10-23-2004 5:49 AM 		Reply to: Message 16 by sidelined
10-22-2004 9:47 PM

Re: The Science of the Bible
What do you mean it "governs the flow" of spacetime?In what way does spacetime flow?Also what are you defining as light in this instance?
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last i checked, it's the other way around. spacetime governs the flow of light.
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proving this is part of what verified relativity.
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11-17-2004 8:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 86 by MangyTiger
10-23-2004 10:56 PM

Re: The Science of the Bible
Classical Greek statues of Atlas show him holding a globe on his shoulders but it is a celestial globe showing the constellations, not the Earth.
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check it out, that page was made using me.
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i so rarely see my other incarnation...
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Message 92 of 99 (160725)
11-17-2004 8:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 87 by Immoros
11-17-2004 12:05 AM

Nearly all of these are simply mistaken statements. First, the Earth is NOT a sphere. This was hammered in to me by multiple physics professors during my grueling college experience (if you don't believe me, do a search on google for "earth is not a sphere" and you will quickly find what I'm talking about. Don't look at the Christian results - look at the secular results, usually notes from Physics/Astronomy courses). It is much closer to an ellipsoid, though that's not quite accurate either.
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an IRREGULAR ellipsoid. with a rather small eccentricity. for all intents and purposes, the earth is approximately spherical.
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Still think the ancient writers using "circle" couldn't mean "sphere?" Then you're just being intellectually dishonest.
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no, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. we've all heard the two terms interchanged now and then.
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HOWEVER it is my opinion that authors of at least the majority of the hebrew bible (and christian) were under the impression that the earth was flat. i could cite verse, but they could all be read other ways (as is the case with ANYTHING in the bible).
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11-17-2004 8:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 89 by PaulK
11-17-2004 3:09 AM

Firstly if you want precision remember that we are dealing with Hebrew and not English. And every source I've checked indicates that the Hebrew word ("chuwg") indicates a circle, not a sphere.
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actually, i'm not certain.
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the only time the word ball is used in an english bible, the hebrew word is use three other times - twice meaning encircled (such as an army surrounding a city), and once implicating fire (?!?).
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so, half the time "ball" is used, it means a FLAT circle. i don't see any reason to think that the word for circle implied flatness, at all.
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i do still think they thought the earth was flat, i'm just arguing a technicality here. the circles they're talking about relating to the earth appear to be the (half?) sphere that surrounds the flat earth -- the heavens.
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