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Author | Topic: Quantized redshifts strongly suggest that our galaxy is at the centre of the universe | ||||||||||||||||||||
John Inactive Member |
quote: Interesting link... ( groan, I hate PDF ) TB, did you really think we had it all figured out when Einstein published his papers back at the beginning of this century? I realize the man was brilliant, but come on, all good things must end-- just like with Newton. Your entire argument rests on the idea that physics HAS all the answers, that we have exhausted the options and the only one left is GOD. This is just silly. How can you argue so hard in other threads that science is wrong ( about evolution, about geology, about abiogenesis) yet base an argument like this one on the insistence that science has the whole of cosmology right? How? Well, hate to say it, but because it suits your ends. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Never said it was, but people start to look for new explainations when the old ones faulter.
quote: I may not find it, and probably won't, but someone will. It may be radically new, it may not be.
quote: If the data are correct, and they seem to be, then we have got something wrong somewhere. Your argument still depends upon an insistence that we do have it all correct. This point I wish you would address. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: I honestly don't care if it avoids centrism I just think that it will. Galacto-centrism is just an odd concept given all the movement in the universe. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Hey TB, I knew some one must have thought of this besides me That, or I read about it somewhere. Sometimes it is hard to keep track. "During inflation, these quantum mechanical fluctuations are amplified and due to the accelerating expansion of the universe they are stretched to macroscopic length scales."
Index | Relativity and Gravitation Group ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com [This message has been edited by John, 08-13-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
quote: It does now. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: quote: I don't get it. Looks more like a sponge to me, not a set of Russian dolls with us at the middle. I see voids and clusters, but nothing centered on us-- that would be the 'zero' at the bottom of the pie. Now if you pick and choose just the right spots to measure you certainly could develope just such a concentric sphere centered around us ...
quote: Do you read the stuff people post?
quote: Ah.... the conspiracy!!!!
quote: I prefer it to creationist propaganda, actually.
quote: Are you going to back this up or should we take your word for it? Oh... and multiple mainstream peer-reviewed papers say that the membranes are not centered on us perhaps? I found a few. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com [This message has been edited by John, 08-25-2002] [This message has been edited by John, 08-25-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
quote: This is a good start.
quote: Where are the mainstream papers that say this? Or rather, why are there not mountains of papers verifying this?
quote: You don't say.
quote: If you work the math right, and choose the right variables, and have good data. It is easy to screw these things up.
quote: Right... and the people who do the analysis decide to draw sponges instead of Russian Dolls? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Same here, TB. Everything I've found about quantized redshifts is based on a few papers from the seventies. um.... that was a long time ago by the way.
quote: Weird. Whatdayaknow? Better information popped up over the last thirty years. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: May I suggest that your religious bias is preventing you from seeing this issue objectively? Quantized redshifts, if they exist, screw with cosmology. There is no 'straight forward' explanation. Whatever the solution, large bits of cosmology get dismantled. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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