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creationfan Inactive Member |
"Another big problem with Noah's Ark is the very fact that the animal's would be crapping everywhere making a huge mess. furthermore, How would Noah have estimated the right ammount of food for all the animals to last that entire pleasure cruise?"
Noah wasn't some dim-witted boat builder, he would have figuered out ways to easily get rid of crap, such as specialized bird cages that drop the stuff outside the ship. Plus if some of the animals hibernated, which is very possible, the chore of cleaning up there mess would be very easy. Rabbits acually eat their own pellets, so that takes care of some of their food. Noah also could have brought on worms to get rid of some of it. Worms are also a good souce of food (short term). Many meat eaters can revert to eating plants, just like they used to, God may have made the meat-eaters into herbivores for the duration of the trip. Any more questions, cause I'm on a roll!
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"Drinking water is an obvious issue."
Not at all, it obviously rained a lot, so Noah probablly would have put in ways to get the rain water into trophs.(not sure how to spell it) wooden pipes or even gutters would work, animals aren't very picky over water. As for the water outside the ark, it was all salt, maybe with pockets of fresh water. Many fish can tolerate salt or fresh water, salmon are proof of that. I'm no genetics expert, but I bet tolerance of either kind was in all fish genes, some fish kinds mutated after the flood and lost that ability. That is just speculation though, I wasn't there. When you think about it there really are no problems with the flood of Noah.
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"See I have no problem with that viewpoint - if people want to believe "god dun it" - good for them. It's when they try and mangle science and say "hey this was all possible without any special interference from god!""
I never said God couldn't do it, after all he created the World in 6 days, in fact almost everything I said requires God's intervention for it to happen. Hibernations, diet changes, fish tolerance of F-S water. None of that could happen unless God intervined.
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"but hey if you have any evidence of such behovioral changes lets see them."
Now there is a stupid request, No one here today was there but God and he wrote it down for us. But no one was there to see animals "evolve" over "millions" of years either, yet that is supposed to be proveable. It is not. "also evidence that carnivores once were herbivores while still the same species would be of interest." Well aren't you chock full of stupid request today, I said this twice already. Many carnivores today will eat plants if the need comes about, do you deny that? This evidence you want for Carn. turning to Herb. while on the ark can't be found because they were on the ark at the time, it wouldn't have been a lifetime of eating plants, just the time that they were on the ark.
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"the only problem is a total lack of any evidence of any kind for any of it."
Do you know were to look, try the Grand Canyon, which was carved out by incredible amounts of water very rapidly. A majority of the rock layers were layed down by mudslides during the flood, producing a fossil record of what died first not what "evolved first." All the erosion of rocks said to be pounded by water for thousands of years could have been made by one major catastophe(the flood).
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"And to which post can you direct me when I said stuff I "made up?" You went totally "clueless" on me when you visualized the naked breast thing, so I'm guessing have yet to understand a single word I've said.
I'm using quotes and information from God's word. I've been accused of trying have absolute knowledge, but falsely. God's word says that all men are sinful; that's not me saying that. Are you paying any attention at all, or are you just interested in performing cheap shots and sniping?" Thanks it's great to see that I'm not going at this alone. These guys want us to prove all this stuff, now it's there turn. How did amphibians evolve into reptiles when there eggs are completely differant?
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creationfan Inactive Member |
I know it's in the wrong area(you are all very big on that) but I'm sick of having to defend my faith while others mock us blindly accepting their own.
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creationfan Inactive Member |
Sure, I was just curious why Creationist are the only ones defending here. I know, what is the real reason you don't want to believe in the flood? Is it because your scared of the possibility of God's future judgement(revelation).
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"Carnivores have been observed eating plant material in little bits for some specific reasons, but not making a full diet of it for extended periods of time. ANd for the length of time that the ark was afloat? yes I do. ANd you still have not answered the problem of the fresh kept separate from the sewage.
Oh gee -- that is the topic?" That still shows that the possibility is there, and they didn't have to eat only plants, it's just easier to store then meat. I didn't see the water question before, but I'll answer it now. the tanks for drinking wouldn't be near the sewage for contamination purposes. As I said further back, Noah must of had some way to clear animal stuff from the ark quickly, God wouldn't want a ship full of disease holding the future of Earth itself.
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creationfan Inactive Member |
"Of course not. Whether or not the Flood ever happened or there was an Ark has nothing to do with any future judgement."
It sure does, God promised He'd never send another global flood to judge the whole world. His final judgement will be by fire.
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