|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Should those of religious faith be allowed to run this country? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
OK, I'll bite. I agree with GDR that if a Muslim president were elected fairly by the voters we'd simply have to live with it.
I also agree with whoever said it would be a very different world at that point, if this Muslim president observed all the Muslim rituals as he should. Myself, I'm inclined to expect that Islam will eventually be calling the shots in this nation in one way or another anyway, because their aim is and always has been the subjugation of the entire world to Allah, and we have no will to stop them, having abandoned our Christian roots. That being the case, I'm inclined to believe it's God's judgment against us because we've abandoned the true God, who is certainly not Allah. The Israelites were warned (in Leviticus and Deuteronomy) of the destruction of their nation if they didn't obey, and you can follow the fulfillment of those prophecies up through the history of Israel and even up to this day. The New Testament tells us to take the whole Old Testament, including what happened to Israel as admonitions to us about how God does things. {edit to correct grammar} This message has been edited by Faith, 06-03-2005 08:38 PM
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Trae Member (Idle past 4336 days) Posts: 442 From: Fremont, CA, USA Joined: |
And of course it wouldn't be wrong to demand that everyone else kneel with them. They don't have to pray, just a moment of silence.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1.61803 Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Faith writes: LOL. Hello Faith. That being the case, I'm inclined to believe it's God's judgement against us because we've abandoned the true God. Who is certainly not Allah.Did you ever stop to wonder if perhaps the God of Abraham may be a new and improved version of a Babylonian god named Elli? Is it even remotely possible that the Judiac people incorporated Babylonian mythology into they're own tall tales? This message has been edited by 1.61803, 06-04-2005 10:02 AM
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Did you ever stop to wonder if perhaps the God of Abraham may be a new and improved version of a Babylonian god named Elli? Is it even remotely possible that the Judiac people incorporated Babylonian mythology into they're own tall tales? No.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
EZscience Member (Idle past 5184 days) Posts: 961 From: A wheatfield in Kansas Joined: |
Brad writes: If the right wants to give an answer as to why someone of the islamic faith should be denied office, and a christian should be granted office...that could be interesting. You are going to have to lay a more artful trap to lure them in, Brad.They aren't going to walk head-on into that one. (except maybe Faith ) Faith writes: I'm inclined to expect that Islam will eventually be calling the shots in this nation in one way or another anyway, because their aim is and always has been the subjugation of the entire world to Allah That outlook seems, at first, a little defeatist, but also presumptive. Do we really know that Islam wants to 'subjugate the entire world' ? Or are you just transposing the goals of Christianity onto a competing ideology ? Maybe they would just leave us alone if we left them alone ? We can't really find that out now because we have been messing with them for so long over this Palestinian situation.
Faith writes: and we have no will to stop them, having abandoned our Christian roots. So what's really holding back our subjugation of Islam is that we don't have enough God-fearing Christians in America to oppose them ideologically? This message has been edited by EZscience, 06-04-2005 01:07 PM
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Faith writes: I'm inclined to expect that Islam will eventually be calling the shots in this nation in one way or another anyway, because their aim is and always has been the subjugation of the entire world to Allah That outlook seems, at first, a little defeatist, but also presumptive. Do we really know that Islam wants to 'subjugate the entire world' ? Or are you just transposing the goals of Christianity onto a competing ideology ? Maybe they would just leave us alone if we left them alone ? We can't really find that out now because we have been messing with them for so long over this Palestinian situation. Typical leftist propaganda delusion. The leftist support of Islam is going to bite them in the butt big time some day. Islam from the beginning has had the goal of subduing the world to Allah. The left is feeding right into their hands these days. No, they have no intention of leaving anybody alone when they have the opportunity to make a move for Allah. Yes, we *know* this. You may not know it, but that's because you've been listening to the propaganda from the Leftist butt that's going to be bit big time. We should have known something about Muslim intentions if only from the actions of the Muslim pirates who kidnapped and enslaved American sailors in the time of Washington and Adams, because America was considered by them to be a Christian nation, and Christians like all "infidels" worthy only of humiliation, servitude or death.
Faith writes: and we have no will to stop them, having abandoned our Christian roots. So what's really holding back our subjugation of Islam is that we don't have enough God-fearing Christians in America to oppose them ideologically? Nobody's proposing subjugating Islam, simply keeping them from subjugating us, and the reason I am suggesting for why we may not be able to keep them from it is that *as a nation* we've been violating God's laws. Our complete destruction is probably taking so long to arrive in full force simply because there ARE lots of God-fearing Christians who keep praying for the nation even while the Left does its best to bury us all. There are times, I must say, when I feel like saying, "Bring it on, Lord, I'm sick of this nation that hates You and Your law. I'd rather have my head sawn off than see it go on another day." But guess what, unlike me God is merciful to all you ingrates and continues to give you time to repent.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Trixie Member (Idle past 3736 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: |
You didn't really say this in seriousness, did you?
We should have known something about Muslim intentions if only from the actions of the Muslim pirates who kidnapped and enslaved American sailors in the time of Washington and Adams, because America was considered by them to be a Christian nation, and Christians like all "infidels" worthy only of humiliation, servitude or death.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: And we should know something about Christian intentions, since good Christian Americans enslaved so many more Africans. The history of medievel Europe pretty much shows how it is a part of Christian ideology to forcibly impose Christian beleifs on others.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
We should have known something about Muslim intentions if only from the actions of the Muslim pirates who kidnapped and enslaved American sailors in the time of Washington and Adams, because America was considered by them to be a Christian nation, and Christians like all "infidels" worthy only of humiliation, servitude or death. ROTFLMAO!!!! Very glad you brought that up. I assume you've read the Treaty of Tripoli? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Go look at my Isalm thread where u wer reefuted
to faith This message has been edited by Chris Porteus, 06-04-2005 09:55 PM
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes I'm aware of the Treaty of Tripoli and that Washington assured the pirates that they were wrong, that we are not a Christian nation. All he meant was that unlike Europe our state and church are separate. If he meant what all the secularists claim he meant I have to rethink my appreciation of our founders as he betrayed the vast majority of American citizens in that case.
HOWEVER, none of this is relevant to the point, which is that the Muslim pirates considered American sailors to be Christians, and Christians to be fair game for kidnapping and enslavement. Don't change the subject.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not only did he mean what he said but in case you haven't noticed, it's the truth.
HOWEVER, none of this is relevant to the point, which is that the Muslim pirates considered American sailors to be Christians, and Christians to be fair game for kidnapping and enslavement. Don't change the subject. That is something you have been trying to make the point through repeated assertions, but like everything else from your knowledge of history to your understanding of Christianity, all your posts are doing is showing that you don't have a clue. Our current friends the British were also impressing our seamen which lead to the War of 1812 (even though that was yet another example of sheer stupidity on the US part and classic overreaction and a rush to use force when diplomacy would have and did do as well). Aslan is not a Tame Lion
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Right Jar, the English were impressing our seamen and enslaving them, because they were Christians and the English believe that Christians are infidels who need to be treated like dogs and they too needed to be assured that America was not a Christian country. Right.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: So really, the intention of the post was to find someone dumb enough to post their thoughts, if those thoughts pertained to bigotry, and then have at them, ensuring your place in this electronic community here at evc as a person who might be good at debating? Frankly, I think this is a horrible way to start discussions, please tell me about your thoughts on the conservative population in America, for that is what you wanted to put on display, so maybe evcers like NosyNed, and jar could sit back and chuckle. I don't appreciate the bringing out of a group of individuals for chuckles. These feelings of superiority to the religious right, tell me that productive disscussions cannot be attained by talking with you, now that isn't what you wanted is it? Of course not. It's funny that you still seek these conversations with some guy living in a bayou, it grants you satisfaction to watch someone be "shut down" on an online forum, that's sick. This message has been edited by prophex, 06-04-2005 10:47 PM porteus@gmail.com
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
joshua221  Inactive Member |
I'm sure your aware of the "holy wars" known as the Crusades.
Finding historical events as evidence are very easy to refute, when one looks back a bit further at the probable mentality of the "pirates" who practiced Islam. porteus@gmail.com
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024