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The Academic Bill of Rights

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06-09-2005 4:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 8 by Faith
06-09-2005 3:29 PM

I would.
It's stupid legislation based on a total misunderstanding of education.
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06-09-2005 6:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Chiroptera
06-09-2005 6:15 PM

David just found out ...
... what Falwell and Robertson have known for decades. Christian Fundamentalists are a ripe field just waiting to be harvested. LOL
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06-09-2005 10:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 33 by CanadianSteve
06-09-2005 10:20 PM

Re: It is not a call for more government
I think you are skipping a step.
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First, why is there a problem if the education system is biased against any students point of view or beliefs?
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Why wouldn't you want the education system to challenge EVERY belief?
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06-10-2005 12:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 37 by CanadianSteve
06-10-2005 12:27 AM

Re: It is not a call for more government
You were right to stress "Every belief." The problem is that the system does not challenge leftist beliefs, only conservative ones.
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So far you have not shown that.
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The prof who asked students to prove that Bush is a war criminal should have, instead, asked students to take a stand for or against that position.
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Nonsense. The goal was not to give their opinion but to see how well they could support a position. The professor was absolutely right. And once again, you assert he would have marked down a student who disagreed with him but you provide no evidence.
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06-10-2005 12:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 79 by robinrohan
06-10-2005 12:16 PM

Re: It is not a call for more government
I pointed out in another message in a thread far, far away, that the teachers that had the biggest effect on me were the ones that challenged things I believed. Quite often they drove us like cattle until we saw the light and agreed with their position only to then turn the herd around and drive us back the other way.
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The result was not the ending postion or opinion, but rather the tools and techniques involved in critically examining any belief.
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Message 96 of 178 (216001)
06-10-2005 7:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 93 by Faith
06-10-2005 6:50 PM

public school are being attacked
You wouldn't say that public schools are under attack in Kansas? How else can you describe the efforts to keep children in ignorance by including nonsense like creationism or ID in the curiculum?
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06-10-2005 7:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 97 by Faith
06-10-2005 7:38 PM

Re: public school are being attacked
That does not answer the question.
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Are you saying that it's okay to keep Christian children ignorant?
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