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Author Topic:   Just a few questions...
NosyNed
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Message 3 of 54 (244525)
09-18-2005 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Enuf_Alredy
09-17-2005 11:02 PM


Others will, I'm sure enlighten
However, I'm just going to make a suggestion:
Some of the topics here can be fairly challenging and sometimes a bit of a background in the sciences being discussed can be useful. It is also necessary to be able to reason things out a bit.
I think if you spent just a little bit of time reading up on evolutionary biology at it's most simple and then thought for a short while about the questions you have asked then you would be able to arrive at your own answers.
They only appear challenging to someone who hasn't been introduced to the topic at even the most redementary level.
If you are unable to manage this there may be some individuals patient enough to try to help you but you'll have to be receptive and demonstrate that you are.

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NosyNed
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Message 28 of 54 (244748)
09-18-2005 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Enuf_Alredy
09-18-2005 11:49 PM


New books
The ToE implies that new creatures come from the start of one creature. How can mutations (recombining of the gentetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce a Chinese book)
No, and lo life is written with the same letters following the same grammer**. Just as a few English letters can create a seemingly infinite variety of books so the recombinations of the letters of the genetic code can and do create the variety of life we see. They are all a one.
** just a reminder about how analogies are of limited value and may be dangerous to the mind.

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NosyNed
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Message 35 of 54 (244772)
09-19-2005 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Enuf_Alredy
09-19-2005 12:47 AM


Re: New books
Recombining ENGLISH letters WILL NEVER produce a CHINESE book. Now, when you begin to move around genetic code.
You seem to be confused about your own analogy. ALL the "books" ARE written in the same language. If the genetic language of humans is "chinese" then so is that of chimps, and mice, and dragonflies and ...
Your point about the characters of the code not changing is correct however it is since all the living "books" are written with the same characters and with the same rules of grammer and with many words identical and with many whole sentences and even paragraphs identical. The problem you appear to be alluding to(unless I don't get the point at all) is not there in living things.
Of course if a deity had magiced things into existance and wanted to keep different sorts clearly separated one way it could have done that is to write the genetic codes of men and mice with different characters. That is NOT what is there.

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