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Brian
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Message 6 of 12 (255019)
10-27-2005 5:45 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by finishfinish
10-27-2005 5:38 AM


Re: the land bridge
What makes you think that that Israelites crossed here?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 8 of 12 (255022)
10-27-2005 6:06 AM
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10-27-2005 6:03 AM


Re: the land bridge
I don't get it?
There's a chariot wheel (if it is a chariot wheel) in the Red Sea, how does this support an Exodus and, in particular, Israelites crossing at this land bridge?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 11 of 12 (255038)
10-27-2005 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by finishfinish
10-27-2005 6:50 AM


And????
Hi,
Read them.
Still don't see a connection between a 'chariot wheel' in the Red Sea and the Exodus.
How do you know the Israelites crossed here?
You really need to support this claim with some evidence.
For example, to come out of Egypt the Israelites need to have been in there in the first place, what evidence do you have of this?
Also, how do you know this 'chariot wheeel' has anything to do with the Exodus?
Does it have 'I am a chariot wheel of someone who was chasing a group of Israelites' written on it?
There is nothing of substance at any of those sites.
To anyone who knows anything about archaeology, which Ron Wyatt certainly didn't, a chariot wheel in the Red Sea only suggests that once upon a time a chariot wheel ended up in the Red Sea.
Here is another big error with what these sites claim. The Bible never suggests that the Sea Crossing was at the Red Sea.
Amy Dockser Marcus, Rewriting the Bible: How Archaeology is Reshaping the Middle East Little Brown and Co. London 2000, page 53
Another view holds that a number of the phenomena described in Exodus, including the parting of the 'Sea of Reeds' (mistranslated as the 'Red Sea' in some versions of the Bible) could be linked to the volcanic eruption of Thera on the Mediterranean island of Santorini...
Martin Noth The History of Ancient Israel , SCM Press Ltd. London 1958, page 115 footnote 3*
Outside the Pentateuch narrative (and in some passages in the Pentateuch, probably only secondary)this sea is specifically called the 'Reed Sea'.
B S J Isserlin The Israelites Thames and Hudson, London 1998, page 51 and 52,
When, thereafter, he decided to send his troops after in pursuit of the Israelites, the latter were miraculously delivered at the Sea of Reeds.
page 52
Leaving aside the puzzles offered by the miraculous delivery of the Israelites at the crossing of the Sea of Reeds (Some other body of water near Tell el Dab'ah, rather than the Red Sea may be what is referred to).
Werner Keller The Bible as History: Archaeology confirms the Book of Books Hodder and Stoughton Ltd, London 1956, page 126
The first difficulty is one of translation. The Hebrew words 'Yam Suph' are sometimes translated as the 'Red Sea' at other times as the 'Reed Sea'. The Reed Sea is frequently mentioned: 'For we have heard how the eternal dried up the water of the Reed Sea before you when you left Egypt.' (Josh 2:10: Moffat's translation) In the Old Testament up to Jeremiah it is called the 'Reed Sea'. The New Testament speaks only of the 'Red Sea' (Acts 7:36 and Hebrews 11:29). On the shores of the Red Sea there are no reeds. The Reed Sea proper lay further north.
John Bright, A History of Israel SCM Press Ltd, London 1976 pages 120-1
It is unlikely that the Israelites crossed the tip of the Red Sea (Gulf of Suez) itself. This is so far to the south that the Egyptian cavalry would surely have caught them long before they reached it. We cannot suppose that the Red Sea then extended north of its present shoreline to connect with the Bitter Lakes, for there is now evidence that it did not. Moreover, the sea (yam suf) is properly the 'Reed Sea' not Red Sea (the Red Sea has no reeds).
The hangers on who are still peddling Ron Wyatt's lies are simply trying to con people out of their hard earned money. Almost everything on these websites has been shown to be untrue.
Some good advice would be to go to a respectable library and read some good quality academic books, give these von Danikenesque websites a wide berth, they are not even remotely convincing.
Brian.

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