Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,906 Year: 4,163/9,624 Month: 1,034/974 Week: 361/286 Day: 4/13 Hour: 1/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   constitutionality of using public funds to promote religion
nwr
Member
Posts: 6412
From: Geneva, Illinois
Joined: 08-08-2005
Member Rating: 4.5


Message 8 of 78 (259351)
11-13-2005 1:36 PM


Two issues I have never understood
(1) What's the big fuss about the pledge of allegiance? It seems to me that a pledge of allegiance has to come from the heart; it cannot be a result of coercion. A required recital of the pledge has always seemed foolish. Children will likely recite it as if meaningless mumbo-jumbo. It will do nothing to instill patriotism. Surely it would be more effective to spend the time on American history.
(2) Why the concern about school prayer? Sure, I do agree that it is a constitutional problem, and that there should not be teacher led prayer. But why is there so much passion over the issue?
I have always thought of teacher led prayer as a way of teaching children to disrespect religion. It seems to me that atheists should be happy with the practice. And then we have
Matt 6.6 writes:
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
So it seems that public prayer, whether in the schools or elsewhere, is anti-Christian. Why aren't fundy groups opposed to such prayer?

Replies to this message:
 Message 10 by Chiroptera, posted 11-13-2005 1:52 PM nwr has not replied
 Message 11 by RAZD, posted 11-13-2005 4:04 PM nwr has not replied

  
nwr
Member
Posts: 6412
From: Geneva, Illinois
Joined: 08-08-2005
Member Rating: 4.5


Message 15 of 78 (259461)
11-13-2005 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by RAZD
11-13-2005 9:59 PM


Re: my pledge
I like that, RAZD. Those are the basic principles of this nation (with apologies to those who live elsewhere).

This message is a reply to:
 Message 14 by RAZD, posted 11-13-2005 9:59 PM RAZD has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024