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Nuggin
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Message 31 of 33 (281416)
01-25-2006 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by randman
01-25-2006 12:48 AM


Silent Majority
I suspect the vast majority of religious conservatives agree me as well.
I suspect that you're right. Similiarly, I suspect that the majority of political/religious conservatives, when presented with short rational arguments, come down on a much different side of the issue than their vocal representatives.
Unfortunately, they are the silent majority, and it's the noisy minority that gets all the attention. Even if there are a million reasonable conservatives for every Pat Robertson, that one nut gives the rest a bad name.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 32 of 33 (281478)
01-25-2006 10:13 AM
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01-25-2006 12:42 AM


Re: Yes, those Christians want to hurt people...
it's not something about christianity. it's about how they just avoid talking about sex. particularly with children. if you start discussing sex (gently) with young children, then you empower them with the knowledge that if someone touches them, then the child is not in the wrong and the molestor loses his fear power. then more are reported and jailed and all that fun stuff. but no. christians are dead set on 'protecting' children from the 'evils' of sexuality and might tell them to abstain starting from about 16. that's way too late. it's an opportunity ailment. in the absence of light, mold grows and rots all around it. sex isn't dirty. it isn't wrong. it isn't evil. some people have decided it only belongs inside marriage, but not everyone believes that. deal with it. the best way to protect your children from the clutches of others is to educate them early. you don't have to gross them out, but educate them.

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Ben!
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Message 33 of 33 (281484)
01-25-2006 10:35 AM
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01-25-2006 10:13 AM


Re: Yes, those Christians want to hurt people...
you empower them with the knowledge that if someone touches them, then the child is not in the wrong and the molestor loses his fear power.
I always like this point. The way to disempower anything is to face it head on, dive into it, familiarize yourself with it. Yes, you get knowledge. But just as importantly, you lose the sense of fear from infamiliarity.
It's called desensitization training. It's used in psychology to overcome phobias. It's used to train bodyguards, so they can react cooly and appropriately in scary, life-threatening situations.
To ask people to react properly in an unfamiliar, unpracticed situation is really to ask for too much. Incidentally, I think this is why driving instruction sucks. They don't focus at all on what to do when there's a problem. They only teach the rules that should be followed. It means when there IS a problem, you're unlikely to make a good decision to solve it.
If Christians really want to take control about sex, then they should face it head-on. To avoid sex is to sensitize it. To avoid training is to fail to prepare to handle a problem.

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