Another Test for Intelligent Design Proponents

The difference between your Monkeys analogy and life is that in the case of life a large fraction of the random results are "correct". Even if we assume that 2/3 of all errors cause a very early failure to develope an embryo and that only 1/10 of individuls born (might be right for animals -- clearly not for insects (let's us 1/10,000) for insects) live to reproduce then from a few percent to a few 1,000'ths of a percent are "correct" in the case of life. This is a enormously large fraction when compared to the monkeys typing case.We've seen how this can also take very, very little time to "succeed".

What you call traps are called, among other things, logical arguments by many.This is when you examine carefully what you think is true and try to see where that leads you. If you think this is leading you into a "trap" it is a strong hint that what you think is true is flawed in some way.Now it seems this is, to you, only an issue with "physical" things. However, most theologians also approach their ideas in the same way. They don't think it shows faith up in a good light if it is voiced in a way that starts to invite ridicule.Many posters here are anathema to the religious because they invite such ridicule.

Exactly!The IDists rarely take a stance. And never a consistent one. THAT is the point.

Oh, that explans a lot. A lot of what I have no clue.

So why do you bother to discuss it. Why would you care about ID? -- Which is trying to be "scientific". Why not just leave us poor deluded fools to our unimportant little games? The little games which have transformed the world (for good and ill) in less than 5 centuries after millenia of religious belief left the world more or less unchanged from one century to the next. But he is mentioning the ID movement to you. The one that believes that things evolve over millions of years; the one that believes humans and other extant apes are related. Do you then agree with them? That would be surprising. If you don't agree then perhaps you should learn more about it.The ID movement has the same political goals as YEC creationists but what they accept as true is anathema to the YEC creationists and even to some OEC creationists.Maybe there is no problem and you agree with the main core of the ID movement. Do you?This message has been edited by NosyNed, 01-05-2006 09:45 PM

Since these little stories of yours don't really contribute anything to the discussions may I suggest you stop them.You should understand that as you keep filling in these little details it is possible for some people to draw conclusions that you don't want drawn. I suggest you just stick with verifiable facts to make any case you want to make.