Iran hangs 16 year old girl: Sharia at work.

Last night on PBS radio I listened to a talk given by Stephen Kinzer author of All The Shah's Men. The Dulles brothers and the CIA were responsible for overthrowing a democratic government lead by a great leader and they imposed a cruel tyranny on Iran in order to maintain control of the oil fields there. The US is still reaping the bad karma of that greedy evil action.Kinzer is also cautioning that the same kind of thoughtless intervention in Iraq can lead to the same kinds of repercussions decades later.I have such hatred for the evil the CIA has wrought in Iran, Chile, Guatamela. And then ignorant Americans act shocked that they hate us. We send them foreign aid, teach them how to torture and imprison and spy on their populations, rape nuns even in Guatemala and then act shocked by the results of our high handed callous uncaring ripoff.Read Kinzer's book. I'm checking it out tonight.Washington Post reporter Thomas E. Ricks book Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq details this. I heard him speak but his book is not yet in my library. Listen to the report of how badly many of our troops treated Iraqies. There were generals who did it right but they were often a minority and often acting against the wishes of the Administration. I'm not an advocate of the terrorists but the CIA has used terror against these countries and the the US military was doing it as top level policy never mind the self serving lies of the Bush administration. It wasn't on the initiative of a bunch of non coms.I am utterly disgusted by the double standard. It's okay if we do it for the profit of a few but wrong when our frustrated victims strike out from insane governments that resulted from our colonial meddling.Bush and his band of war crimminals have no moral superiority to the terrorist that US dollars and the CIA helped create. Bush lies to the public and he and his cronies pocket the profit while we foot the bills and they bill the coming generations. They don't care if the US goes bankrupt as long as they get theirs. The raw evil is right there in control of Washington DC. We don't need to go to the middle east to find the terrorist. They rule us, and fools us.Bush had better hope the fundies are wrong here and that I'm right cause what he and his cronies have done would assurdedly earn him a spot in hell if hell existed.lfen

You are being disgusting! God said no such thing. The laws were attributed to God. So who is right? Traditions from an early patriarchal legal system or Mark 24, or the Buddha, or you, or me.I say you are wrong and you aren't God. You are an ego. As an intelligent ego you really could know better.lfen

Here is a link that mentions the radio program.Sucuri WebSite Firewall - Access DeniedKinzer's All The Shah's Men details how the British wanted to over throw the progressive democratic government in Iran because it nationalized their oil fields. They were going to follow the same procedures that England was using in England.The CIA did it and installed the brutal regime of the Shah. The country was set back, hatred against the Shah led to the power of the Mullah's and the kind of disgusting government we now find complete with the unfortunately well earned hatred of the West. I blame England and US colonialism for that girls death and the horrible government and condition of Iran. The evils of colonialism have created this and the greedy callous people who did this should be held accountable.lfen

Realpolitik. At least Kissinger was relatively honest in comparison to these neo cons.lfen

Simple analogy. One elephant and four blind men results in four conflicting discriptions.One ultimate reality and millions of fallible human beings results in many confliciting interpretations.You are conflating your referent and what you call the referent and your concepts of it. "Allah","Jehovah","Siva", are words used to refer to something. The concepts "almighty god", or "ultimate source" are conceived differently.Muslims as millions of people have done for thousands of years address themselves to a concept of the ultimate. If differs from other major religion's concepts of the ultimate in various particulars.I suppose when you say Allah doesn't exist and your God does you are saying what you have repeatedly said here which is you are right and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Okay. We knew you believed that as you made it abundantly clear all along.The process of coming to a belief is something not well understood but is of interest to me.At this point all we have is people threatening us and everyone who doesn't join them in their religion with hell if we don't accept their version of ultimate reality.For humans terror is a real experience as is love, joy, hatred. So we could say that ultimate reality has a terrifying aspect as well as more benign aspects. The middle eastern religions tend to stop with this. The ego will be reborn in heaven where there is only one end of the stick, constant pleasure and those that don't agree with the ego go to hell, the other end of the stick. This is still a model based on relative concepts.lfen

Specifically, it is the construction of your imagination. You are mistaken in a number of particulars about existence. It would be more accurate to note that the "Playstation game" is actually your brain.lfen